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⌈ Secret Post #3056 ⌋

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Comments

Re: sorry sorry sorry

[feotakahari]

I just meant that it sounds extreme. Like trying to deal with chronic pain by making it so that you have less of a response to pain in general, or trying to prevent sensory input overload by dulling your senses. I feel like if I stopped being so scared of failing, I'd let myself fail a lot more often, just like I'd keep staring at screens during headaches if I dulled my sense of pain.

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[(Anonymous)]

I genuinely don't know how you managed to get that out of anything I've said.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

[feotakahari]

Hey, if I don't get it, I don't get it. I was just trying to interpret what you meant by "reducing the impact every time you have anxious thoughts." (I'm apparently pretty terrible at interpreting things, given how often anons on FS have told me I completely misunderstood everything.)

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[tree_and_leaf]

It's not about stopping you feeling stuff; it's about stopping you being completely overwhelmed by negative emotions. Which, incidentally, would allow you to deal better with the problem that's causing the anxiety/ depression/ etc, because sitting there overwhelmed with anxiety or panic can be almost guaranteed to make whatever it is you're dealing with worse....

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[(Anonymous)]

So with the headache thing, if you have a really bad headache, do you never take anything for it? If you broke your leg, would you insist on not having it in a cast because that would make you, I don't know, try to walk on it sooner? I don't even understand your thought process here.

But look, mindfulness is about this, pure and simple: learning to let go of intrusive thoughts so you're not obsessing over them. It's fine to feel anxious, angry, sad, yadda yadda, and the point isn't to make yourself stop feeling all of it. The point is to make it so that, when you have a negative emotion, it doesn't take you over to the point where you can't function. Like, it sounds like you're arguing that it's actually BETTER to not be able to function, because otherwise you'll, I dunno, keep touching the stove or some shit, and that just doesn't make sense.

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[tree_and_leaf]

Exactly! It's definitely not about trying to achieve Kholinar /gratuitous Star Trek reference.

Re: sorry sorry sorry

[feotakahari]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what's meant by anxiety. If you only mean that this mindfulness thing kicks in during full-blown panic attacks, then I'm not going to really 100% understand because I don't have those. I thought you meant that it lessens "anxiety" in general. (To continue the painkiller metaphor, I'd take painkillers if I broke my leg, but not if I stubbed my toe.)

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

This is just my own personal experience, one of the many features of my anxiety is constantly turning anthills into mountains. To take your stubbing your toe analogy, I stub my toe, my brain thinks my whole foot is broken.

What mindfulness training does is help teach a person how to scale that exaggeration back down into the realm of reality. My whole foot isn't broken. My toe isn't even broken. Does it hurt like a son-of-a-gun? Heck yes. But there is no permanent damage, no matter what my irrational thought process is trying to tell me right now. I may have a bruise. I might have broken a nail. I did NOT break my foot.

Hope that helps explain things a little more. :)

Re: sorry sorry sorry

[feotakahari]

Fair enough. Sorry for all the pestering.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

It's not that you're pestering, it's that you're wholly disregarding all the good explanations you've been getting because the uninformed assumptions you have in your head are apparently more valid to you than the experiences and knowledge of the people who actually know what they're talking about.