[ SECRET POST #3075 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3075 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Spy]


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[Eurovision]


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[Captain America]


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14. [SPOILERS for Steven Universe]



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15. [SPOILERS for Age of Ultron]



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16. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and DragonFable]



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17. [WARNING for sexual abuse]

(Duggar Family, 19 kids & Counting)


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18. [WARNING for incest]

[A Redtail's Dream]


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Comments

[cbrachyrhynchos]

What does actor opinion have to do with shipping?

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing unless you care about the opinion of the actor. Which this person does. Then it has a great deal to do with shipping.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It's not every day that f!s delivers an idea even stupider than "canon." Maybe once a week. This likely qualifies.

[(Anonymous)]

What? How is canon stupid?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Canon is the Biblical Fundamentalism of fandom. That analogy was baked into the term back in the Sherlock Holmes days when the point was that Doyle was notoriously inconsistent on details from story to story and trying to reconcile the differences was rather like trying to reconcile the Bible.

That's short-selling Biblical Fundamentalists who actually do have a theory of theory of text that's a bit less ridiculous than "canon" holds in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand. Canon is just a term to describe what has been said definitely in text to separate it from whatever headcanon of the week there is.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Texts are not "definite."

Great texts never are.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, you can interpret themes and such. But if a book says, "Joe loves dogs and hates cats", that is definite.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Provided that you actually have a single text in question about Joe. That isn't the case for any multimedia franchise since, oh, the 1930s, and for a lot of stories before then. Does Gertrude die at the end? Well, it depends on whether you're reading Shakespeare, any of the ur-Hamlets, the Dumas/Thomas opera, or some of the adaptations that have been written since then.

It certainly doesn't exist for anything surrounding a character like Captain America, who's been interpreted and reinterpreted on a bi-yearly basis since the 70s.

[(Anonymous)]

But you can just focus on a certain canon. Like, if OP is only talking about MCU Steve Rogers. In which case, comics don't really have to come into play.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Well, no you can't, because there is no canon to focus on, only different works with different writers and different directors giving us subtly different interpretations. (And that's not getting into the issue of audience interpretation.)

[(Anonymous)]

I actually completely agree.

[(Anonymous)]

You seem to hate fun. Like, you take something that's meant to be enjoyable, and sap all of the enjoyment out of it in the name of being incredibly pretentious about entertainment.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I see it as the other way around. Fun is the freedom to crack-ship what you like without regard to arbitrary standards and authority. Ship and let ship.

[(Anonymous)]

And to think all these years I've been crack-shipping up a storm without feeling the need to argue that canon doesn't matter!

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It matters in this discussion since the idea is that an actor's opinion makes an anti-ship more reasonable given the lack of canon.

And, well, even if the character were to break the fourth wall and lecture the viewer regarding the evils of a ship, it really doesn't matter.

[(Anonymous)]

Now that's just mean.

[(Anonymous)]

About the same as people insisting they KNOW what a character would think about the man she loved boning a descendent?

[(Anonymous)]

About the same as you insisting that she definitely would mind it...

[cbrachyrhynchos]

If someone wants to write Carter as cool with that, why not?
If someone wants to write Carter as pissed off by that, why not?

Neither interpretation is beyond the pale compared to what Marvel has done with the characters over the last 40 years.

[kaijinscendre]

Well, of course no one knows for sure. Because it is a pretend character. But you base how you think anyone (fictional and real) will react based on your own experiences and knowledge of the world.

I don't know how _______ would react to his brother being murdered by a vampire. But based off of the real world, I'd say that he would likely become depressed and angry. He'd also probably channel that angers towards vampires. Depending on how close he was with his brother, he may even become motivated enough to hunt down and kill vampires.

I don't actually know anyone who has been murdered by vampires. But I can try and figure out what might happen.

[(Anonymous)]

Gotta get that validation from SOMEWHERE, since canon won't fork it over to these kinds of people.

[(Anonymous)]

Careful, user you replied to thinks the concept of canon is stupid because "lol different interpretations of things lol."