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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-09 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3079 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a pretty dumb meme, but its existence still makes me a bit happy because I like it when "foreign sounding" names aren't the butt of this joke for once ("Shyamalan" is too complicated for you? Come on)

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the joke would exist if it wasn't for the M. Night part, and also if M. Night Shymalan wasn't so very M. Night Shymalan.

Also, it's not racist. Also, Shymalan isn't actually too complicated for people any more than Cumberbatch is. Some names are just funny.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Shyamalarama. Shyamala-ding-dong. Shyamalamashit movies.

double racist whammy

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Wig-wam bam Shyam-a-lam
Wam bam bam Shyam-a-lam

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But don't you know? Messing with that name is racism because it's not a white person name!

(Anonymous) 2015-06-11 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! And also POC can't be racist! Ever!

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it is pretty racist in general when non-white names are treated that way, so while I still think it's mostly lame, at least it's a white actor with an ethnic English name who is getting it this time.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
But like

Clearly, people are capable of laughing at names for reasons that have nothing to do with race

So how is it racist, unless there's some way in which the jokes that they make specifically reference some racial feature of the name or something

Like, how is it racist, though

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
How... is it racist to mock foreign (especially non-white) names? For the reason that they sound so silly to you?

I mean, do I actually have to answer this?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. If some names are capable of just being silly names (which is clearly the case), why is it necessarily racist to say that some of those names that are coincidentally silly happen to be from non-white cultures?

I mean, yes, it's obviously racist if you're mocking all foreign names, or exclusively foreign names, or saying shit like "Sum Ting Wong" or whatever. But if you look at a person who laughs at both Cumberbatch and Shyamalan, I don't see why that's racist.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, please. Have a sense of humor. I know two guys with the last name Wang and another Ho and they can all take jokes about it. Of course there's a time and a place, but a little workplace banter never killed anyone.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
"My black friend thinks it's hilarious when I use the n-word, therefore, racism is invalid!"

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes please do. Because last time I checked, absolutely everyone with a name that's not really basic English gets that treatment. From French over German to Nordic and Eastern European names - but it somehow turns into racism just because the skin colour of the person with that name is a bit different. If anything, it's a case of ethnocentrism, not racism.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
For fairness and balance I can inform you all that the English "Steve Cook" translates to erect penis ("stiv kukk") in Norwegian.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

Depends on how it's done. Like if you're gonna call Ryan Higa Ringrong Hinghong or something, yeah, that's fucking racist. If you're gonna call him Ryland Hiphop, there's not really a race issue there.

The Shamallama thing was definitely drawing on how Indian people sound to non-Indians, so it was pretty racist.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-06-09 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. When I was a kiddo, I used to be so wary of other kids finding out my whole last name. They'd say such rassist shit, rhyming it with animals, and making sounds like, "ching chong chang! burka durka hamala hamala!" (I'm not Asian or... Arab?). Hurtful things to a young growing brat, man :'(

I got over it though, and now I hypocritically find it hilarious when folk purposefully misspell a white person's name. Vic Manana, Beneduck Cumberbutts, Livio Ramen Deli... Except for the obvious times when it isn't (like with Vic), I usually get the impression that it's good-natured and silly. Or maybe I am now the monsters idk :)

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm partial to Vic McNugget

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
People used to do stuff (well, one particular thing) with my last name, and I have the blandest white name on earth. Little kids are just assholes and looking for easy targets. Every name that sounds like anything is going to get mocked.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2015-06-10 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
But his name is foreign sounding. It's overly English. Like super posh English. So upper crust that his family tree doesn't branch and he bleeds blue.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
What was worse was the whole race bending thing, where people were decrying the white-washing of 'The Last Airbender' while making fun of Shyamalan's name.

Even if they weren't doing it out of racism, it sure made them look like a bunch of hypocrites.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a native English speaker. Benguiat Crispy's name sounds as foreign and exotic as they come to me.