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1. Back to having Celebrimbor as my favorite character. What can I say, he's such an interesting and tragic figure.

2. Beren/Luthien

3. Melkor/Sauron or Celebrimbor/Sauron with Maedhros/Fingon a close third.

4. The whole storyline with Celebrimbor and Annatar. I like tragic. Also Beren and Luthien and Finrod. Turin is pretty interesting too. Also the fall of Gondolin. I like lots of things.

Bonus: I have very clear headcanons of what certain characters look like. Sauron pre-Numenor was blonde and kind of muscular from working in the forge. Celebrimbor had the dark hair of his father and grandfather, also muscular for an elf, and he was several inches taller than Annatar. Finrod was also blonde.

I think Celebrimbor is probably the character I have the most headcanon for. I see him as both wanting to escape his family legacy and yet still part of him wants to live up to the greatness of his grandfather. I think Annatar played into desires of his that were genuinely good. He wanted to protect his people. But he also wanted to achieve greatness. And someone on Tumblr suggested that maybe he was actually suspicious of Annatar but pushed it aside because he thought that those suspicions were the Feanorian side of him and not a good thing. And I really like that idea.

Edited 2015-06-16 01:43 (UTC)

I've poked around some of the art depicting Melkor/Sauron; Sauron/Celebrimbor and it does spark thought. Sauron's treated as a symbol of evil in the books, so it's interesting to consider him in the same light as you would Gandalf. (And it also makes me love Luthien even more for kicking his ass.)

I'm actually more curious about Celebrimbor's time in Nargothrond - about his relationship with his dad and uncles, and Orodreth, Finduilas, Finrod, etc. What did he think of his dad and uncle turning everyone against Finrod? Was he aware of Luthien's imprisonment? How was he treated when his uncle and dad were banished?

And was he on Balar when his other uncles attacked Sirion? Did he get to meet baby Elrond and Elros, see Elwing wearing the Silmaril? Did he consider accepting the Valar's call to go back to Valinor after the First Age? It's interesting (and sad) to think he might've stayed in the hopes of redeeming himself and his house but then ended up making things worse (and yet also did redeem because he enticed Sauron to make a ring that ended up undoing Sauron). Lots of food for thought.

I think the interesting thing with Sauron is that in the Silmarillion, he has it much more together than he does in LOTR. It is all part of Tolkien's ideas about evil corrupting. He starts out as being pretty attractive, and in the Silmarillion he's kind of the brains of the operation. He plans in order to accomplish what Morgoth desires. And he's quite good at seducing people into getting what he wants. Until after Numenor. Then things start to fall apart for him and more and more he becomes his master in terms of not being able to accomplish his goals because he's short-sighted and acts with less thought.

And Luthien is badass. She kicks Sauron's ass and then manages to knock out Morgoth. She's probably my second favorite Tolkien character.

I wish we had more on Celebrimbor's time in Nargathrond too. Really, anything more about his character. There is so little and I find him so fascinating. He's so very Feanorian and yet so very different from his father and grandfather and uncles.

But I find his time in Eregion and his end the most fascinating because I have a thing for tragedy. Every time you read a fic, you know what is coming and yet Celebrimbor can't see it until it is too late, though he does manage to redeem himself in the end. And I think it is all the more tragic because he really was fooled. He wasn't purposefully trying to help Sauron or do anything besides help his people. He wasn't his grandfather or his father and uncles. And yet he had some of the same faults and Sauron knew exactly how to use them to his advantage.

I'm not a big fan of tragedy. In the Second Age, I like to focus on Celebrimbor's friendship (or epic love, as you like) to Narvi. I am also intrigued by the logistics of Eregion - about the other craftsmen and Celebrimbor's relationship with them. And all the other things they created.

I do think the most compelling part of his story with Sauron is the way he withheld the location of the three rings, and how horrible it was for Sauron to use his body as a banner. It was heroic but terrible and awful to think about. If I ever wrote a story about this time, I would have to continue the story into Valinor where Celebrimbor was reborn and given the opportunity to make amends and meet up with his old friends and family - something deserving of his sacrifice.

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