[ SECRET POST #3090 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3090 ⌋

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07. http://i.imgur.com/Vx3C0pu.png

[(Anonymous)]

I have a hard time feeling sorry for Tom Cruise, because he's in his way promoted it.

But, yes, it's a cult and we should think of it like other cults.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel sorry for Tom Cruise in the same way I'd feel bad for anyone else who is profoundly mentally unwell because he comes off that way to me. Desperate for attention and approval, full of too much energy, emotionally a small child... I'm not saying Cruise is blameless but it really looks like Miscavige and company abused the hell out of that

[(Anonymous)]

I read the book, and although Lawrence Wright was exceptionally careful for legal reasons, he described Tom Cruise being served lobster by 14-year-olds who obviously should have been in school. In other words, whatever good he thinks Scientology is doing in the world, he can't be unaware that they're using illegal child labor, not to mention what amounts to slave labor that's done a lot of work for him personally.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel slightly bad for the non-famous Scientologists and people who were born into it. I don't feel particularly bad for adults who join of their own free will, either because they believe it will help their careers or because they're just garden variety gullible. It's like Amway or any other pyramid scam. If you don't have the smarts to realize it's all looney tunes bullshit, then that's the sad consequence of making big decisions without thinking them through.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 I can verify this from the pyramid scam side of things. (Not me, but people I knew.) Pyramid schemes *do* work, but only if you get in at the very beginning (IOW, the MLM company is yours/you are at the top or within one or two levels of the pyramid). The problem with this is twofold: There are MLM "CEOs" who cycle through these companies every so many years, in order to keep themselves at the top of the pyramid (as their "downlines" make out like the slaves *before* the Exodus) and ten times out of ten, the people in the first one or two levels do this as well. Knowingly.

No comment on the UFO therapy cult, but I've always found this picture sums things up fairly succinctly:

[(Anonymous)]

Saying that pyramid schemes work depends on a pretty loose definition of "work"... I mean it works only if you:

1) get in it early
2) are willing to screw other people over big time, usually your friends and family
3) don't get caught, because pyramid schemes are illegal in many countries, including the U.S. and Canada.

[(Anonymous)]

Like the Church Of Satan and Temple Of the Vampyre?

[(Anonymous)]

i ship that but only if it's messed up

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly wish America would just pull a Germany and ban scientology outright.

[(Anonymous)]

They can't, really. The U.S. is hyper-protective of religions (or at least, the ones consisting mostly of white people) even when they have dumbass beliefs, like not giving your children necessary medical treatment and letting them get sick and die. To a lot of people, Scientology looks, smells and acts like a cult. But if you dig down, it's not that different from a lot of evangelical mega-churches that also squeeze money out of their followers in the name of self improvement. You cannot go after the mega churches because people pitch a fit whenever Christianity is even remotely threatened in any way.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I know the futility of it but one can't help but wish.

I honestly sometimes think of starting a religion that doesn't believe in paying taxes because we recognize no authority outside of God.

Bet the federal government would change it's tune MIGHTY quick in that case.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's scary how much influence pious anti-medicine crackpots have had at the highest levels of USA government. Two of Dick Nixon's closest advisers were Church of Christ, Scientist, an "idealist" religion that believes in praying away illness.

D:

[(Anonymous)]

German anon with a clarification: Germany has not banned Scientology.

It is not officially recognized as a church here, and there are some groups keeping a very close eye on it (mostly anti-cult representatives in some state governments). The general attitude towards Scientology is more sceptical from both the government as well as from the general uninvolved public, but it has not been banned here and is in fact rather active in a few places.

Of course, Scientology tried to twist that into some sort of "the Germans are going all Nazi again and are trying to persecute uus like they persecuted the Jews during the Third Reich"-kind of publicity spiel. IMO, they are pretty pissed that the German government doesn't just let them do as they want but is in fact watching them.

Here's an interview with Ursula Caberta, one of the prominent German government figures fighting Scientology with Tony Ortega. It contains a clip of what happened when Caberta arrived at a US airport and was greeted by a special Scientology welcome committee. I think that says it all:

http://tonyortega.org/2013/01/31/ursula-caberta-retiring-tomorrow-she-talks-to-us-about-fighting-scientology-in-germany-for-20-years/

[(Anonymous)]

Oh.

Oh, great.

Now I do, too.

But only if it's super fucked up and dark and awful and abusive (kinda like in real life).

OMG I'm a terrible person and it's all your fault.

[(Anonymous)]

go on

[(Anonymous)]

And you know they go on yatchs together and then there are the motocycles with matching t-shirts and i believe that someone said that Miscavage showed Tom how to shot guns? Like they went on a shooting range and fun and stuff.

Not that it isn't fucked up manipulative, 'cause it is fucked up and manipulative couldn't work otherwise; but there's some fun dates for them too.

[(Anonymous)]

EW! Tom Cruise shouldn't be paired with anybody. Ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I can't deny that there was an exceptional amount of eye-fucking going on, but they're both crazy-eyed and ferrety-looking. No thanks.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel bad for John Travolta and many others, but I have no sympathy for Tom Cruise and his abusive ass. There are lots of victims in that cult, but Cruise isn't one of them.

All of you are going to hell for shipping this.

[(Anonymous)]

Re: All of you are going to hell for shipping this.

[(Anonymous)]

thetan hell?

fuck you all im writing fic now

[(Anonymous)]

gdi

[(Anonymous)]

I son't feel sorry for Tom Cruise, but I do feel sorry for John Travolta.

[scrubber]

Why? Is he not one of the top dogs the Church bends over backwards to keep happy?