[ SECRET POST #3090 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3090 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You had me until you said "Hyena."

Sorry, I find them absolutely loathsome.

[(Anonymous)]

Why? They're really pretty awesome animals.

serious answer

[(Anonymous)]

I was indifferent to them until I saw a documentary about them tearing lion cubs apart while the mother lioness was blind from snake poison (and thus unable to save her cubs).

I was a new mother at the time-- my newborn was maybe two weeks old -- and those images fused with all my anxieties about motherhood. Ever since just the mention of hyenas makes stomach acid creep up my throat. I htink if I saw one in the wild and had a gun, I'd go berserk and shoot it til the clip was empty.

Yes, I hate them. I can accept that it's not rational, but it anin't gonna change.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

You do know the lionesses would do the same thing if the situation was reversed, right? Lions routinely ambush hyena dens and kill their cubs when they get the chance, too. It's doubtful they would care if the hyenas were blinded in an inverted scenario; it isn't as though they're magically "more moral" than hyenas. Is one okay and not the other?

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I thought I made it pretty clear in my post that my reaction was deeply subjective and emotional).

I'm done responding.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

well as long as you realize your hatred of natural wild dynamics is irrational

Re: DA

[diet_poison]

they already did that, several comments ago.

Re: DA

[silverr]

... but I think you're missing the point? The salient detail here seems to me to be "new mother seeing an example where an animal mother was entirely unable to protect her offspring"; because of their anxiety about their own parenting ability, they apparently identified with the lioness and therefore forever associated hyenas with "everything that could harm my [their] kids."

I'd guess that if the documentary had shown lions killing hyena cubs while a hyena mother was incapacitated, the AYRT might have made an association leading to hatred of lions.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

and either way it would have been irrational

so?

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

lol what

What part of ayrt's comment suggests that they think that lions are "magically more moral" than hyenas?

Re: serious answer

[(Anonymous)]

That's really interesting! I suppose I shouldn't mention that male lions kill cubs of the defeated males just to bring the females back into heat, huh? :)

Hyenas, on the other hand, are fantastic mothers. I once heard of a hyena who was having trouble giving birth, hyena births are VERY difficult, and when she finally got the cub out, it was very still. She worked with that cub and worked with it until, like people do with kittens who come out still, the cub began to breathe on its own.

I have also never seen cubs play nearly as hard as I have hyena cubs play. Like, I've seen lion cubs stalk and everything, but it's very rare that I'll see a lion doing something for the sheer joy of it, the way you'll see hyena cubs play.

Sorry, I just think hyenas get a really bad rap, because most of the time you'll see them sticking their heads out of a stinking carcass, and they're not as 'romanticized' as lions are. I absolutely adore them, and I think that everyone should give them a second look, because they're great!

Re: serious answer

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

As I said above, whatever the actual facts may be, my reaction to them is deeply emotinoal, subjective, and extremely visceral. I literally taste bile and feel stressed when I even see pictures of them: I won't go so far to say that it's triggering for me, but it's truly unpleasant for me have to even look at pictures.

But I am sorry -- I should have left you to your hyena-enjoyment and just walked away from the computer (and this discussion) when I saw that picture, but it was a knee-jerk response which I do regret.

Re: serious answer

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, no prob! I just thought that they get a bum wrap, and I think that people should understand more about them!

I get that way about pregnancy though. Ugh, that's terrifying and horrible, so I do understand entirely to irrational visceral reactions about that kind of thing! :)

Re: serious answer

[diet_poison]

what's funny about this is that male lions do this all the time.

However? being a new mother of a two-week-old, I think anyone in your shoes would be fucked up about hyenas (or anything) seeing them presented like that at that time. I think that's really understandable.