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⌈ Secret Post #390 ⌋

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- First comment, you know what to do!
- Big thank you to Gargant for the help here! 8D

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Well, you're not alone in your opinions, that is for sure, so your points may have some validity. I mean, I used to agree with you. I wondered why he was so highly esteemed in the art community. Needless to say, I saw the light. We must agree to disagree.

You should definately work on wording.

"Saw the light" just screams "well, you're WRONG but thats ok," condescending etc etc.

That was intentional.

Oh, then you're a bitch AND an idiot. :) Glad to know.

Yes, ad hominem attacks. That will shut a bitch up good. Look, this got out of hand pretty quickly. I'm sorry I wasn't more civil, but it is a bit frustrating that you just dismissed him out of hand without even entertaining any of the reasons why he might be so highly regarded.

He is insulting to me as an artist. Plain INSULTING. I can guess that you are not an artist yourself.

*not above poster*

says the half rate fan artist

I.... am not a fanartist. ._.

I'm an artist, however, and I agree with

la_bien_rose. You should stop with the generalizing; that can really ruin an argument, I'll have you know.

Most of his works aren't very pretty, but there's more to "art" than just looking nice.

It's not about what's 'pretty'. It's about the fact that people like that can't draw a stickfigure. They don't work for what they do, they throw paint on a canvas and PRETEND they worked hard. They're hacks.

I'm just a measly little anonymous, but if it makes you feel any better, I agree with you. I mean, I don't claim to have any sort of say over what's art or not, but if one were to ask my opinion, I don't count "red dot on a yellow canvas" art. I don't hate all abstract art, just the sort that...well, the sort that looks like it took 5 minutes to paint and no creativity at all. I know I would rather spend my money on something that actually looks like it took skill and effort to do. If I want a red dot on a yellow canvas, I can do that myself.

(Anonymous because I'm a coward and don't want other anonymous digging up my crappy "art". Just because I draw shitty doesn't mean my opinion's not as valid as anyone's.)

Re: 14, 44

tealizard.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 01:03 (UTC) - Expand

xanykaos.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 02:48 (UTC) - Expand

I'm an artist and I agree with

tealizard. I don't see how you being an 'artist' (what counts as an artist, anyway?) is supposed to make your argument somehow more valid.

Frankly, I don't care if his stuff is art or not, but I love how these sorts of arguments always boil down to "but I'm an arteest so I know better!" and "your art sucks so your opinion doesn't count!" in the end. Because someone who resorts to such childish retorts is obviously someone whose arguments should be taken more seriously than anyone else's. Obviously.

I can guess that you are not an artist yourself.

Meaning, if you are an artist, you cannot possibly think that there is any sort of merit in Pollock's work. I'm not bad artistically, and I do sell my work, so I think I count. No, it doesn't validate my opinion, it didn't mean it to.

I don't really give two shits about it either, I'm arguing for the hell of it.

lols jealous

Somedays, it pains me so badly.... that I cannot splatter paint like that man could. What talent he had, to... to... oh god, the emotion in the random splotchings of paint, so mathmatical!

germania731.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 16:27 (UTC) - Expand

tealizard.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 21:07 (UTC) - Expand

germania731.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 21:24 (UTC) - Expand

I lolled at this thread, thanks!

He's not insulting to other artists, though, and that's where you differ. Pollock isn't the type of art I do, but he is a type of art. So it's not your type. It's still a type.

He's not art. He's... a child with a paintbucket.

(Anonymous) - 2008-12-09 22:33 (UTC) - Expand

tealizard.livejournal.com - 2008-12-09 22:35 (UTC) - Expand

And you're a snob and a jerk. :)

Actually no, the person that thinks jackson pollock is a 'snob'.

?

What? I'm sorry, there seems to be a missing predicate there, so I don't understand this comment.

... wow seriously how the hell did THAT happen. insert "is a talented artist" pls.

manda-babylon.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 03:29 (UTC) - Expand

tealizard.livejournal.com - 2008-01-31 03:33 (UTC) - Expand

I hate to but in here, because I could care less as well over who is right, but you're both acting like snobs.

Snob (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/snob), –noun
2. a person who believes himself or herself an expert or connoisseur in a given field and is condescending toward or disdainful of those who hold other opinions or have different tastes regarding this field.

Jeez, people. Everyone's got a butthole. An opinion is just an opinion, and art is a relative term no matter WHAT anyone says. I don't even know who these people are but I'm astounded at both of your behavior over proving who's right by resorting to mudslinging.

you started the bitch attack, sweetheart, with your "I know more about art than you do because I'm an artist". stfu.

LOL