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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-01 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3132 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3132 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand how you feel OP. I guess it's hard to convey tone over the internet, but sometimes I'm taken as a hater or being too harsh when it's just my sense of humor and I'm not even trying to be harsh at all.

I feel like I used to be a lot more active in my fandoms but I switched to lurker mode because people don't like when I'm too opinionated. I understand to an extent. It feels like someone is attacking something they like, even though I think criticism is important part of taking in source material and discussing character development.

It's too common in certain character or shipping fandoms that people try to brush the flaws under the rug or anything that portrays so-and-so in a less than flattering light, whereas I like to discuss it and I love no character less because of their flaws.

But like I said, I can understand how some people might get put off by criticism even if it's not my intention. Some people just like to enjoy things on an aesthetic level and some like things on a critical level. You just have to find the right crowd.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You sort of hit the target later on in your comment, but to clarify...

"... because people don't like when I'm too opinionated."


It's not the having of opinions that people dislike or take issue with. It's in how the opinions are expressed, and to whom, and in what context. Nobody will care if you have truckloads of opinions on _____ fandom, but if you insist on imposing them on people who'd rather not engage in discussion with you, then yeah, they're not going to like it. Lots of people enjoy critical discussion of their fandom. But if all your discussion is being interpreted as criticism when that isn't what you intend, you probably have some issues with tone and knowing when to back off.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody will care if you have truckloads of opinions on _____ fandom, but if you insist on imposing them on people who'd rather not engage in discussion with you, then yeah, they're not going to like it.

The problem with the tumblr format is that there isn't really a line separating one from the other. If you see someone's post in which they're stating their opinion about the text, and you disagree with their opinion and reply by posting your own (civilly worded) disagreement, many people will feel that you are imposing your opinions rudely, or even bullying.

There's no clear line between "my own space," "public space," and "your own space," in tumblr fandom, which leads to a lot of nastiness and wank.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
The rather simple and obvious solution is to do your own write up in a separate post, though.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Simple and obvious, yes, but it's not necessarily a very good solution. Mainly because it all but eliminates the potential for dialogue, and dialogue is an invaluable part of intellectual pursuit.

And if you quote from a person's post without linking to their original post, that's just feels underhanded. Academically sound, but underhanded nonetheless.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. It feels like you're talking about someone behind their back in a rather passive-aggressive way to make your post an obvious reply to another, yet not link it or refer to it directly.

Yet replying directly under the post itself is seen as bad tumblr etiquette and close to bullying, which I will never understand.

There's really no way to have a proper dialogue on tumblr, like we're having right now on this thread, for instance. It's a real difficulty when so much of fandom has moved to tumblr, yet the culture and format there are so unfriendly towards any kind of debate.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with every word of this.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I knew how to find the right crowd. I can't seem to ask "does anyone feel the same way I do?" without people jumping on me for being a hater.

Well, you're in the right place

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Make an anon post in GC here.