[ SECRET POST #3149 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3149 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

This is entirely reasonable.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, your choice. Most authors that might put somethig like that in the summary or tags are just casting a wide net for readers.

If the rest of the tags or the summary isn't obnoxious, I take a look at the first paragraph to make the assemment as to whether the story is a Pearl, Sturdily Competent, or Utter Crap.

[(Anonymous)]

That casting a wide net is another signal that the fic is going to be fucking pure shite though. That is how you get wall of tag spam, and it shoved into every category going and every character in it, or even thought about, being tagged. Writers that are happy to take the readers that come by and grow their fic by WoM are so much better than those who want their shite to show up in every search ever and crowd out the former type by their sheer volume of presence. That is why people are abandoning AO3 and going back to the pit of voles. Its harder to do the latter on the pit.

[(Anonymous)]

Sticking in a lot of unnecessary tags and having a fic show up in categories where it really doesn't belong isn't cool. But doing what you can to make sure the fic gets seen by the people who'd be interested in it isn't a bad thing. Wanting people to read what you've written doesn't make you a bad writer.

I don't know, this whole comment comes across a lot like all those arguments about how you can only be a "real" and "good" writer if you don't care about feedback and how writers should be eternally grateful for whatever scraps fandom happens to toss their way.

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree.

[philstar22]

I used to feel this way. Then I got into the Tolkien fandom. And he ship names in this fandom are just so fun.

[cloud_riven]

That's fair.

My qualifier, as far as titles go, is the use of "Heart", "Desire", "Tale", and any combination thereof. It's going to be shit. And then I click it anyway, but that's not the point.

[(Anonymous)]

In the title, definitely. The tags or username though...It's a sign but not a guarantee. Maybe the tag is just a habit from tumblr, and usernames last a while.

[caerbannog]

Ok.

[a_potato]

Eh, I think I might have felt this way a couple of years ago. Now, however, after having become invested in a ship for which nearly everything, regardless of quality, is tagged under a portmanteau (and, honestly, I think this is partially because it's a controversial ship, and people go to lengths to help those who want to avoid it), I have to disagree. When it comes to that particular pairing, if you want maximum visibility for your fic, you have to use the portmanteau.

[(Anonymous)]

OK....congrats?

[kallanda_lee]

Those seems such...odd criteria, though?

If you're talking tumblr, especially, then a / is untaggable, so of course you'll get portmanteaus and people tag stuff with their name so they can find it. But obviously it's going to bleed through to other things.

[a_potato]

I've seen people substitute an "x" for "/" to get around that, but yeah, the tumblr tagging system does lend itself to portmanteaus.

[(Anonymous)]

Snobbish much?

I do that sometimes

[(Anonymous)]

But I'll only put the shipname in the tags.

[nightscale]

I might skip out if it's a tagged portmanteau on Ao3(since you can tag ships properly there) but if it's on tumblr those are standard so eh, have at it.

[(Anonymous)]

In the mid-2000s, I would have found this to be reasonable, but in my experience most modern fandoms are so lousy with ship portmanteaus that their usage is no longer a reliable measure of maturity or skill.

I would probably pass on a fic whose title had a ship name in it though, but I'd avoid it whether or not it was the ship's proper name or a portmanteau. Unless maybe it was a collection of unrelated short fics titled "Miscellaneous Ship Drabbles" or something.

[(Anonymous)]

It wouldn't stop me reading the fic but I definitely have certain expectations about people who use them and what the fic is going to be like. Those expectations aren't very flattering.

For me, I intend never to use them for my own fic. They seem to have some usefulness for tumblr but they bug me.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, snob. You can stick to your complicated ways and miss out on a lot of great fics.

This attitude might have been understandable when ship portmanteaus were in it's infancy but now it is pretty commonplace amongst all major fandoms. People use it because it's easy for people to find, tag it, and filter for those who don't want to see it. It also implies the fic is actually about that ship and not just a fic that happens to have those two characters in it.

Honestly this just seems like stubborn resistance against something that makes searching stuff a hell of a lot easier. For the life of me I cannot understand the problem people seem to have with it other than thinking it's immature? We have technology advancements to make things easier and texting shorthand is commonplace because almost everyone has a phone. It's so much easier to search for stuff using as little text characters as possible on phones than to type everything out.

I have searched for ship stuff using 'and' or 'x' between character names and I get so much unrelated results and ships that I wasn't searching for, but ship portmanteaus give me exactly what I am looking for.

I mean if you already have that niche where you can type both names out and find everything you need, then good for you. But enough with the condescending attitude for people who choose to use ship portmanteaus. Especially since I know a lot of people (in my fandom at least) are frequently reading fics and browsing on their mobile phones.

[(Anonymous)]

OP that sounds like 'Old people' problems you've got there.
Fandom has evolved and your missing out.

[(Anonymous)]

Hahaha.

I can remember the days this started becoming a THING, and Hollywood made it worse.

[(Anonymous)]

On AO3 or LJ, yes. Completely.

On tumblr, no. You can't tag for X/Y on tumblr so you're forced to use portmanteau names, no matter how much you detest them.

I've actually defriended people on tumblr who have ranted about how ugly and stupid portmanteau names are and how they judge other people for using them. You're on tumblr, it's not like there's much other choice. It just made the ranter look embarrassingly slow in the head as well being bad tempered and self-centered.

[(Anonymous)]

But if the main part of the fandom's on tumblr and everybody who ships a pairing is used to searching for the portmanteau, doesn't it makes sense for people to put the portmanteau in the tags on AO3?

[(Anonymous)]

ok grandma