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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-18 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3149 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
What?

Why?

Like, you realize we're going to elect a whole lot more white presidents, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Because Obama

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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2015-08-19 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Never again.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-19 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but yes, I do realise that, but the media should not be endorsing that.

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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-08-18 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
What if the president is Kevin James?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
IMO Kevin James should never be President

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's where Pixels lost me. I could suspend my disbelief enough to accept that the world was being attacked by 80's video game characters, but asking me to buy Paul Blart as the president was just too much.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
trolololol

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if they want to show the president as a conspirator or a murdering psycho or just a generally nasty, bigoted person, I can see why they might not want to cast a black man or a woman or another POC/WOC. We've had loads of white, male presidents, so having a white actor wouldn't be singling any of them out. But having a black president or a woman president might be perceived as making a political statement (either on Obama, or Hillary Clinton, or just the prospect of a female or POC president, etc.)

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that makes sense! if the president is black people are automatically going to assume you are using him as an Obama analogue.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying. I don't think it's obviously fair, but I think writers will worry about unintentionally making an Obama (or Hillary) statement... and to some extent, I can believe that audiences actually would make that jump.

Of course, that's largely because seeing a black man or woman in a president role is still so unusual in Hollywood that it stands out, and some people will automatically make connections because of that. I know there have been black Presidents in Hollywood films before, mostly before Obama, but even then, I think writers expected audiences to find that unusual.

To be fair, though, a president with a Texan accent is almost definitely going to be associated with Bush, too.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Pre-Obama, one of the stock ways to establish "this is an alternate universe set in current day" was to have the PotUS be black.

Post-Obama, one of the stock ways to establish "this is an alternate universe set in current day" is to have the PotUS be white.

Is it bad one way but not the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
When I tried to think of media that uses black presidents, all that came to mind was pre-Obama things.

Like Fifth Element!

What we need now is non-white and non-black presidents.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-19 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Pre-Obama we had Morgan Freeman as POTUS in Deep Impact.

Post-Obama we had Samuel L. Jackson as POTUS in Big Game.

I think that says something about the US as a nation.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-08-18 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't specifically have a problem with white dude presidents. I just want to see more non-white dude presidents too. Doesn't have to be a zero sum game.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
do you think they should just use an obama look-alike all the time or something?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a ridiculous secret.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Bet the true criteria for his election was: "Who's the best manspreader in this whole, wide land?"

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Lazy" is a very, very weird word choice.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like more variety because geez, why not? You're writing your own fictionalized world, might as well stretch those world building muscles.

This is such a dippy assertion.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
We have had 44 presidents, one of which has been black. I expect the next one will be white, so if by lazy, you mean realistic, okay. How about we talk about why there aren't more fictional (or, hell, real life) female presidents. Or how about Latino/a presidents? Asian? Native American?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-19 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think I get this.

I think what OP is asking for it to reflect the current president if it's actually modern day America. So, a black person is in power therefore they should have a black person as president on TV instead of white, because it feels like it's ignoring that, yes, a black person made it into the White House.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-19 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry anon, the next president (of the US I think you mean) will most likely be white.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-19 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I love how this confession, and the entire subsequent discussion thereof, only addresses race. What about a white female president?

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