[ SECRET POST #3172 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3172 ⌋

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[croik]

I've been thinking about giving the manga a try, since I liked the anime but felt it lacked a certain sense of team cohesion, but it sounds like that problem is in the source? Everything about the anime is "Here is your party, like them," without really putting in the effort to develop each character and their relationships. I'm pretty sure Chain has 3 lines in 11 eps. And even when it gives up a glimpse of something really interesting or heartfelt, it's discarded an episode later. And of course, the final episode is in limbo, which sucks (even though, to be honest, I don't expect that the finale will give us any answers or closure anyway).

But I still love Trigun. Nothing can pry Trigun from me.

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OP

Yeah! That's it! That's the feeling I've been trying to describe. I don't think it helps that I was reading it at around the same time as Gangsta., which is kind of the polar opposite in that respect. It kind of seems like he's imitating Kouta Hirano's style, where stuff plays out in the negative space of events, and you sort of witness characters trusting each other differently over time, without seeing much of the domesticity which must be aiding that closeness. Like... maybe Nightow isn't good enough to carry that off. Maybe the main character needs to be brash, or needs to keep his friends at arm's length. I guess he was trying hard to do the opposite of Trigun. I guess he achieved that.

[croik]

What's really frustrating at least from the anime side of things is that if you watch the ending sequence, it showcases a lot of what is actually missing in the show itself: the whole gang together hanging out and having fun and showcasing their personality quirks. It feels like a group that I really could get into an enjoy, were those dynamics fleshed out in the show. I was even thinking of requesting it for Yuletide, to see if fandom could fill in those blanks.

Maybe it's just that "found family" is such a stock trope of shonen manga/anime that Nightow took it for granted this time. With Trigun, Vash was such an important figure within his own world that it felt right that everyone knew and gravitated toward him and fell into place. Leonardo, not so much (which is a shame because damn, those eyes, what a great design).

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nyart

the whole gang together hanging out and having fun and showcasing their personality quirks.

This is vital to me if the show makes a point about how important friendship is or how one person brought everyone else together. Neglect that and I'll be scratching my head over why the people are friends. And if they do or say things that go directly against this and they don't get called out on it? Then I'll be wondering what the show runners are thinking.

Looking at you, Sailor Moon Crystal. It took me reading the manga and watching the other adaptations to get why people consider SM to have good female friendships.

[ketita]

I don't *think* you've been misjudging Trigun. I loved it too, both the anime and the manga (though god was the art difficult to parse! Half of the battles I had no idea what was going on). B3 is really different in terms of feel, I think. It also tries to be a lot more ensemble cast than Trigun ever was.

It was a bit scattered for me, but I did enjoy it and found it kind of refreshing relative to other shows that have come out recently (though my favorite of this season is Gangsta. That one's fun~)