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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-14 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3176 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3176 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Journey]


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[Absolutely Fabulous]


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(Sam Smith, Lana Del Rey, Shirley Bassey, Ellie Goulding)


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[Tim Drake, DC Comics]


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[Wakako-zake]


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[FIFA, World Soccer Championship]


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[Fear The Walking Dead]


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[Calvin Dyson - Bond Reviewer, The Anime Man, BobSamurai's Anime Reviews, Retroblasting, Oliver Harper's Retrospective and Reviews]


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[Higher Ground]


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[Beelzebub]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Robert Stack, Unsolved Mysteries]








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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-09-15 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's fucking gross. I will *never* understand how some people are so fucking hateful about immigrants. I don't care if they 'snuck over the border' or took all their tests or fake-married somebody - who *cares*??
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-15 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, don't get me started on the fake marriage thing. People can marry for money. People can marry for sex. People can marry for health care. People can marry for a house. But for some reason marriages for immigration benefits are considered fake.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-09-15 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
People can marry drunk in Vegas. Jayzus, if everyone is consenting, who gives a fuck? So not my business.

Plus, every 'illegal' that works here pays *taxes* here - up to (and sometimes including) federal income tax. So that argument is utterly stupid, and yet it's the one you hear the most often.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-15 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. They pay taxes and rarely get access to any benefits even if they need them. So arguments about them draining money are also ludicrous. And they are paying into the system without getting anything out of it.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-09-15 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yup to all this. Arrrgh. The hatefulness and bigotry of so much of the human race really makes me just ...so exhausted and bitter.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-15 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. In so many areas, but immigration is a particular button for me since I work with them and they are often the most amazing people. And I've studied our immigration law and it is horrifying. Which I actually don't think most people are aware of. They say things like "they could just come here legally" and clearly don't understand how impossible that literally is for most people.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-15 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
They say things like "they could just come here legally" and clearly don't understand how impossible that literally is for most people.

*Nods* YES. This. Every time someone goes off with the, "Just use the legal means" argument, I always think about the stories of immigrants fleeing areas that are in the midst of civil wars or massive drug cartel situations or other serious, life-threatening, dangerous scenarios of that sort.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm running from a war-torn country with nothing but the clothes on my back and my family at my side, going through "proper legal channels" to get into another country probably isn't going to be the very first order of business for me. I just want to get somewhere, ANYWHERE, that's safer than where I currently am. Once I'm away from the danger and have kind of regrouped and settled a bit, then sure, I'd look into making my residency legal if I'm planning on staying in the country for a while, if not permanently.

But when I'm fleeing? No, not so much. And as others pointed out, even when people do use the legal means, there's a lot of red tape and hoops they have to jump through there, too, that can take ages to get sorted out. I don't blame people in those situations if they lose patience and just go, "Screw it."

The whole "criminals" argument is another one that makes me roll my eyes. No, I wouldn't want violent criminals from other countries coming in here, but hell, I don't want the violent criminals that are born and raised here to be out wandering around, either, so... Most immigrants aren't criminals, so I'm not about to single them out for extra close scrutiny. If they're here and not causing any trouble to anyone and just going about their daily business, then leave them the hell alone.