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⌈ Secret Post #3177 ⌋

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Comments

A question

[(Anonymous)]

The discussion about it can easily go south and may be triggering, so putting in it the second comment.

Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Extra question: would you get one if the fetus was confirmed to have a severe mental or physical disability?

Please keep it respectful.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

What's it to you?

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I would (but haven't so far) and I think that both social and medical grounds are perfectly valid reasons for getting an abortion.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, and yes. I have no desire to be a parent at all.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

As it is right now, I most likely wouldn't have done it if I knew it was a healthy baby, but most likely would if there were any severe medical issues. I don't know how I would really react though If I suddenly did find out I was pregnant tomorrow.

I know I wouldn't have an abortion past the first trimester though, barring severe medical issues.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Never have, and no, I probably never would, even if the fetus had a severe mental/physical disability. About the only reason I would is if I knew going through with the pregnancy was going to seriously risk my life or that of the fetus, if one or both of us was likely to die in the process or something. Otherwise, I would carry out the pregnancy. And if, for whatever reason, I was unable to take care of the child myself once they were born, I'd put them up for adoption.

I'm pro-choice, by the way, if that matters here.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I have not. My best friend did in college. I would like to think I wouldn't ever get one; however, I would get one if there were something seriously wrong with the fetus.

Why?

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't, but I don't think I could handle raising a kid with a severe disability, especially mental, so I'd opt for it honestly. I've seen the toll my autistic cousin's taken on my aunt and it's not worth it.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I have not.

I don't think I'm mentally or emotionally capable of raising a child with a mental disability; physical disability would depend on what you're saying? Paraplegic? Quadriplegic? Limbs missing?

It would depend for me, and would really depend on whether or not the doctor's thought the child's quality of life would be. Would they only live a couple of months before dying a miserable death? (Like, with extreme lissencephaly?) Than yes, I would abort.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I would. I'm not comfortable being in a position of making my child's disability my lifestyle.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[caerbannog]

It depends on the stage for me. What stage, idk because I haven't really researched babies as I don't want one. But there's a point I wouldn't get an abortion and would put up for adoption.

Yes, well depends on the disability, but yes.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

This was actually a discussion my mother had with myself and my sister when she was pregnant with our brother.

I was 10 when she got pregnant -- she'd been told (after years of fertility treatments and a surgery that messed up her reproductive system) that she couldn't get pregnant.

She got pregnant by accident at about age 40 anyway. My parents were happy and really wanted the baby, but they told us, right off the bat that if it tested positive for Downs Syndrome that they would abort it.

Not because they couldn't have loved the child, but because they wouldn't leave that burden on us since, inevitably, we would be left to be the caretakers when our parents died.

Fortunately my brother was not disabled and so he was born happy and healthy. But I know that I would make the same choice as my mother.

If she had aborted me because she didn't want to burden my sister, I would never hold that against her.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I get them at least once a year, but not because I don't want kids. (I don't, but that's not why I do it, or I'd just use BC.) It's actually a kink. One that I'm little ashamed of, but don't want to give up.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't, but I would definitely have an abortion.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[tasogare_n_hime]

I have never had one, but I would definitely get one. If I ever got pregnant it would be the result of rape, I am very happily single and abstinent that is never going to change.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't, but I would if I needed to.

For the extra points...honestly, yes. I'm responsible enough to handle a normally-developing child, but the extra care that would go into having a special needs child would break me, and I know it. Unfortunately, that does also account for a normally-developing child that has an accident that renders them severely disabled, and that's one of the main reasons I'm never going to have children. It's paranoid of me, but even with that slim chance, and knowing how I'd react, I can't in any good conscience doom a child to that.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

I would, because I don't want to be a parent, wouldn't be a good parent, and have a body horror-type reaction to pregnancy. I would just want it gone. Right now.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes I would, to both questions.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[nightscale]

Yes, I'd get one without hesitation and regardless of the situation. I do not want kids at all and the idea of being pregnant is something I find horrifying.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because I consider bringing up a child in my life circumstances and putting one in the adoption system both more cruel than getting rid of a fetus.

Re: Would you/have you gotten an abortion?

[kitelovesyou]

Okay too much info maybe, here you go spreadsheet anon, but this is a topic close to my heart.

Never had an abortion (never had reproductive sex to have an accidental pregnancy though).

Have had a miscarriage.

I would get an abortion if I needed to, absolutely. Including for severe disability. I had a (for now) healthy baby, tested foetus early for severe genetic defects, would have had an abortion if test had been positive. I had a 1 in 100 chance of this.

For me, it's the person carrying the embryo/foetus who gets to determine the meaning of what it/them is to them. No one else. I would never tell anyone else what they should do or not do.

Once the foetus is in the latter part of the pregnancy, and could live well independently of the womb-bearer, then I think abortion is morally problematic.

Where I live, abortion is legal on demand, up to 24 weeks if warranted.

I delayed having children for a decade because of disability, and only chose to breed when I felt I had just enough energy and resources to care for a child, including just enough extra if they became sick/disabled. This is why I was determined not to bear a child I was already sure would need my care for the rest of their life, not because they wouldn't be "perfect". I knew I could try again, as embryos/foetuses are potential lives, not lives to me, even the one I miscarried. Other people have different personal meanings, and that's okay.

Re: A question

[herpymcderp]

I have not but someone close to me has. She was 16, and told me years after the fact. I told her it was one of the best decisions she has ever made.

Re: A question

[ariakas]

No, I haven't, and... probably. Depends on the disability. If there was a possibility of a healthy, enjoyable life for them, no, I wouldn't, but if there wasn't, I would.

My only other thoughts on this come from studying science history and ethics... somewhere north of 95% of women abort if they find out that the fetus has severe, congenital diseases. Reading about the sheer human cost when 20-100x more children who required intensive, 24/7 care (and almost invariably died in childhood) for the entirety of their natural lives, and were often in crippling pain the whole time - and a greater proportion of women had children at an advanced age, not fewer as per popular myth because there was no birth control - is enough to make even the most religious soul staunchly pro-choice, I think. The drain on families and the drain on society - in particular fledgling attempts at socialized medicine - was staggering.

And if one wonders how we dealt with this before modern medicine and whatnot, well, the answer is pretty simple: we didn't. Infants born in these conditions were either killed or left to die (a practice that continues in hunter-gather tribes to this day). What you're seeing is a convenient modern expedience for a tradition as old as humankind itself, only we've absolved the rest of the "tribe" (i.e. society) of their complicity in this choice.

Re: A question

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Never had reason to do so... but yes I would. I have a mild phobia about pregnancy, a larger one about labour, and a distinct lack of faith in my ability to raise a child.

I also suspect that pregnancy may be detrimental to my health, and with my track record, the only way I would end up pregnant is via rape.

I would probably try to get an abortion without even inquiring about the potential ability of the embryo.