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Which characters would you argue could not be gender-swapped?

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is Riley from Inside Out. I find that story so deeply female (especially specific to that age) that I cannot imagine it going that way for a male character her age.

Could not, or could not with the story meaningfully intact?

Utena or Sailor Moon being men is possible, but it would kinda ruin the point of both series.

Jess from New Girl. It's pretty obvious.

Mulan, obvs.

Oh, yeah, I agree there.

I'll admit there are a few where I'd prefer they not be gender-swapped, but that's just personal preference. But for the most characters it would change little. Exceptions being:

1) Bilbo from The Hobbit. I know it's done a lot in fic, but that's usually exactly to change the dynamic. It might just be me, but if you change Bilbo (and keep all the dwarves male), it's less about differences in culture and more about differences between the sexes. Bilbo's the homebody, the one who enjoys cooking, the peacemaker, etc. All very stereotypically female things.

2) A lot of Star Wars characters. Though I suppose you could swap them all. I say this mainly because so much of SW is about fathers and sons.

What if someone genderswapped Bilbo and the dwarves?

(If someone's done this already, I'd very much like a link.)

I don't know if someone has actually ever swapped all of them. But I do know of fics where both Bilbo and *some* of the dwarves were swapped.

I agree with you on Bilbo. I'm much more interested in one of the dwarves being genderswapped (though in general genderswapping is not my thing).

After reading quite a few fem!Bilbo fics in my time, I agree, but it's more because I wanted a more canon-flavour dynamic.

I would say only characters where their gender was an integral part of the plot/who they are.

And even then sometimes it could work if you switched the genders of everyone in the story.

Edited 2015-09-19 21:41 (UTC)

I honestly can't really think of anything outside of the casts of Final Fantasies 6 and 7.

While gender is probably the least important factor in their stories (or from what I remember, it's been years), having Terra and Celes (who are arguably the main characters in the game, no matter what hogwash Squenix tries to sell people, though Terra is the more cited/used one in outside media) be men would take something away from it.

Final Fantasy 7 one where I'm so used to the characters the way they are, I'm not sure I'd be 100% okay with a genderswap solely out of nostalgia. But to be fair, you could theoretically change the sexes of everyone in the story to the opposite and it wouldn't affect much in the game anyhow (except for the whole angle with Vincent, Lucretia, and Hojo, but no one gives a shit about Dirge of Cerberus lol).

Buffy (or any of the slayers). Being female is so integral to who she is and to the mythology of the show.

Juno?

Steven Universe - I think a lot of the shows messages about equality and teaching boys it's okay to have a soft side and such would (obviously) get lost if Steven was a female. Girl!Steven seems super strange to me in that aspect.

Tbh, I can genderswap any guy but I have difficulty doing it to canon female characters. I'm okay with this.

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Any character where gender is an active part of their storyline.

But no one beyond that. I don't really buy claims that men and women "just think differently" and such, at least it is totally possible for men and women to think the same.

Anakin Skywalker, Padmé, Shmi

I actually think you could gender swap the OT characters (Luke, especially, was envisioned as a woman at one point. But Anakin, Padmé, and Shmi have to stay how they are.

Shmi due to the way Anakin was born -- it wouldn't work with a dude so Anakin couldn't have a father but no mother.

Padmé had to be woman to give birth to Luke and Leia.

And she couldn't be gender swapped with Anakin because a big part of Anakin's story is fearing that she'll die in childbirth and then being ignorant of the survival of his children. Which I don't think would be feasible if he was the pregnant partner.

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