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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-30 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3222 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3222 ⌋

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Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I have fondness for Finnish folkloric magic system, mostly because it's part of my studies. Basically almost everything has magic; water, plants, the dead, iron and most notably women (or people with vaginas, if you prefer). The magic is referred with a word which means both people and power, which made what would be known as "elves" manifestations of natural power of places. If magic turned bad it could make people ill, then it was referred to as "anger".

To counter this natural magic, you needed to have a strong will and a knack for poetry. These people, wise men and women, for example, healed people by getting really angry and commanding the "anger" out of the wound. The command was always a poem, and it was always structured in a certain way, in what is known as Kalevala meter (a type of trochaic tetrameter).

Idk, emotional magic is cool to me.

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
that is the coolest thing i've heard in a while

where could i read more about this?

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Most of my sources are in Finnish, and none of them seem to be translated, but I did manage to track down this book (http://sacred-texts.com/neu/ms1/index.htm), which looks quite alright to me by a quick glance (chapter VI is what I looked at since it's mostly about magic). As with all folklore the system is very complex, influenced by lot of different things and varies between East and West. They have used spirit instead of elves for translation of the word haltia/haltija, for example, but both go.

And there's of course always Kalevala, the Finnish national epic which is based on Finnish folk-poetry but was heavily edited and in some parts completely made up by the collector of the poems, but it's worth a look (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala).

Hope these help! :)

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
They do, thank you!

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Another anon here, I wouldn't mind getting the source links that are in Finnish.

Also I guess someone could translate "halti(j)a" as "keeper" or "guardian" too. "Elf" seems to be common these days, presumably because it was used for "haltia" when LOTR was translated to Finnish?

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Kaarle Krohn: Suomalaisten runojen uskonto is a fantastic place to start. Also Satu Apo's Naisen väki: Tutkimuksia suomalaisten kansanomaisesta kulttuurista ja ajattelusta.

I believe halti(j)a originally meant owner of the property. In most english texts elves specifically mean tonttus or tomtes i.e. house spirits with a dash of scandinavian influence (also sometimes the term fairy is used in regards to wood folk and such). I personally prefer to use elves as a common term, since a lot of the time for example personifications of woods and water (esp named ones such as Mielikki or Tapio) have a very human-like form. I'd say appearance but wood elves have often beards. That's not very elvish these days.

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
That does sound cool. The healer gets angry and recites a poem? I'm imagining doctors doing slam poetry.

What type of studies? That sounds like it'd be interesting to learn about?

Re: Favorite Magic System

(Anonymous) 2015-10-31 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, very angry. Basically the healer tells that the "anger" has no right to be in someone else's body and that they are more powerful than it, so could it kindly fuck off. (but in a verse!)

These kind of things we're practiced well into the 1800's, so we have actual writings about what it looks like (and lots of poems written down). During the ritual the healer:
1) becomes enraged,
2) his speech becomes loud and frenzied,
3) he foams at the mouth,
4) gnashes his teeth,
5) his hair stands on end,
6) his eyes widen,
7) he knits his brows
8) he spits often,
9) his body contorts,
10) he stamps his feet,
11) jumps up and down on the floor, and makes many other gestures.
So basically, pretty wild stuff. Would love to see some modern doctors try this.

(this being in the Western, Lutheran parts of Finland, in the East, the person would have to go ask for forgiveness from the elves, since the illness was seen as being caused from offending a spirit)

I study folklore. :) It is a lot of fun.