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I'm working on a fantasy for Nanowrimo and I'm looking for inspiration. What are some of your favorite magic systems and why? It can be from any medium.

I like Nen from Hunter x Hunter. I love the creative ways it's used.

I didn't much like the game Eternal Sonata,but I like the concept that only dying people can use magic. It was a cool idea.

I like Tolkien's magic system because there isn't that much of it so it isn't a crutch that can be used to get out of everything. It just works within that world and can do some things, but it isn't a get out of jail free card. It is more subtle except in the most powerful beings, and even then they can't do everything.

I feel the same way about the ASOIAF/Game of Thrones magic. There is only a little of it, which is nice. It can do some things, but not everything.

Also the Force from Star Wars.

Really, I just like more subtle magic systems. While I do love Harry Potter, the magic systems I find most interesting are the ones that aren't as strong as that.

I have fondness for Finnish folkloric magic system, mostly because it's part of my studies. Basically almost everything has magic; water, plants, the dead, iron and most notably women (or people with vaginas, if you prefer). The magic is referred with a word which means both people and power, which made what would be known as "elves" manifestations of natural power of places. If magic turned bad it could make people ill, then it was referred to as "anger".

To counter this natural magic, you needed to have a strong will and a knack for poetry. These people, wise men and women, for example, healed people by getting really angry and commanding the "anger" out of the wound. The command was always a poem, and it was always structured in a certain way, in what is known as Kalevala meter (a type of trochaic tetrameter).

Idk, emotional magic is cool to me.

that is the coolest thing i've heard in a while

where could i read more about this?

Most of my sources are in Finnish, and none of them seem to be translated, but I did manage to track down this book (http://sacred-texts.com/neu/ms1/index.htm), which looks quite alright to me by a quick glance (chapter VI is what I looked at since it's mostly about magic). As with all folklore the system is very complex, influenced by lot of different things and varies between East and West. They have used spirit instead of elves for translation of the word haltia/haltija, for example, but both go.

And there's of course always Kalevala, the Finnish national epic which is based on Finnish folk-poetry but was heavily edited and in some parts completely made up by the collector of the poems, but it's worth a look (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala).

Hope these help! :)

They do, thank you!

Another anon here, I wouldn't mind getting the source links that are in Finnish.

Also I guess someone could translate "halti(j)a" as "keeper" or "guardian" too. "Elf" seems to be common these days, presumably because it was used for "haltia" when LOTR was translated to Finnish?

Kaarle Krohn: Suomalaisten runojen uskonto is a fantastic place to start. Also Satu Apo's Naisen väki: Tutkimuksia suomalaisten kansanomaisesta kulttuurista ja ajattelusta.

I believe halti(j)a originally meant owner of the property. In most english texts elves specifically mean tonttus or tomtes i.e. house spirits with a dash of scandinavian influence (also sometimes the term fairy is used in regards to wood folk and such). I personally prefer to use elves as a common term, since a lot of the time for example personifications of woods and water (esp named ones such as Mielikki or Tapio) have a very human-like form. I'd say appearance but wood elves have often beards. That's not very elvish these days.

Thanks!

That does sound cool. The healer gets angry and recites a poem? I'm imagining doctors doing slam poetry.

What type of studies? That sounds like it'd be interesting to learn about?

Yes, very angry. Basically the healer tells that the "anger" has no right to be in someone else's body and that they are more powerful than it, so could it kindly fuck off. (but in a verse!)

These kind of things we're practiced well into the 1800's, so we have actual writings about what it looks like (and lots of poems written down). During the ritual the healer:
1) becomes enraged,
2) his speech becomes loud and frenzied,
3) he foams at the mouth,
4) gnashes his teeth,
5) his hair stands on end,
6) his eyes widen,
7) he knits his brows
8) he spits often,
9) his body contorts,
10) he stamps his feet,
11) jumps up and down on the floor, and makes many other gestures.
So basically, pretty wild stuff. Would love to see some modern doctors try this.

(this being in the Western, Lutheran parts of Finland, in the East, the person would have to go ask for forgiveness from the elves, since the illness was seen as being caused from offending a spirit)

I study folklore. :) It is a lot of fun.

It's a bit cliche, but I was very fond of the Materia system from Final Fantasy VII. People don't have an innane ability to use magic, but equipping what is more or less solidified chunks of the planet's energy allows you to use spells. If you wanted to go further into it, based on the stat modification, you could say that equipping Materia heightens your magical strength and defense, but diminishes your physical strength/defense and health.

I like that one too. Equipping magic doesn't sound cliche to me; has it been used often?

I like that too. It's smooth for a video game, and kind of hammers the point that magic is from this Lifestream consciousness, which is neat. And I agree, the stats were always interesting, I liked how it evened it out. Overload on heavy materias like offensive spells and Summons, and your HP really takes a hit.

I like Ursula LeGuin's magic system in A Wizard of Earthsea. It revolves around words and knowing the "true name" for things.

I also like the magic system in Sabriel, which revolves around necromancy, and the use of bells.

The Nightwatch series had a really cool magic idea. I don't know if it's my favorite one, but it was super interesting.

First, people with innate magical powers can do either good magic or evil magic. As I recall, they are divided this way without any choice, really, though perhaps they can "turn"... Anyway, to "power up", good mages need to absorb good thoughts from people, whereas bad mages need those bad thoughts... so ironically, good mages leave people feeling sad, and bad mages leave people feeling good because all their anxieties, fears, etc. are gone.

So what makes the magic good or evil? The wielder's intentions? Or can good magic (for example) only heal people, while evil magic can only make them sick, or what?

I still have a fondness for the "Will and the Word" system of magic in the Belgariad and Mallorean series by David Eddings. It is only restricted by strength of will and the sorcerer's imagination (though there are a few exceptions, like they cannot uncreate anything and resurrecting the dead is supposed to be impossible, but it happens twice in the first series).

I have a tendency to like systems with simple concepts of classification, like schools of magic and elemental alignment.

I once came up with my own magic system that was based on colours - white is energy, brown is movement and shape, red is healing and biology, orange is animals, yellow is fire, green is plants, blue is water, indigo is thought, violet is gases, grey is stone and metal, black is the absence of energy.
I know, some of those are very arbitrary assignments, like brown, orange, indigo and violet. I was still in my early teens when I invented it.

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