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Well, then expect to be gouged is all I can say. If you want formality you're going to pay for it. The wedding industry is specifically set up to take advantage of people who want a big wedding. That is why it's an industry.

There are ways to save that aren't all "rip people off/scam them/spend fuck tons of money or have a tiny wedding in your own backyard." Believe me, my family's done it.

I'm more upset right now because I nearly go into graphic design before my arthritis cropped up big-time in my hands. So the whole wedding photos and sweatshop dresses thing really bothers me.

(Another article suggested offering ~exposure~ in exchange for a reduced price on places helping with the event.)

Well the cheapest wedding I've ever been to was my brother's and he managed to pull it off for around $4000.00 all told.

The photos were done by a professional, but in a public graveyard (yes, my brother and his wife are alternative like that).

They rented a community centre, the food was all pot luck, the sound equipment was all rented, the dress was second hand...

Otherwise, I think you're probably going to be spending some cash if you want a ceremony.

I don't doubt we will, and we're prepared to on some things. But like I said, I already know a few places we're gonna save money. I have a dress already, my mother adores doing pro-quality hair and make-up. I also think I know a church where we could have both ceremony and reception, and it comes with a kitchen right off it. (I used to go there, but haven't for some time due to health reasons.) So it's not like we're going for ultra lavish. Just, you know, our backyard doesn't cute it due to unpredictable weather and sizes, the house we're living in (which isn't ours--family's putting us up until we can find our own place) is... Not ideal.

We're gonna cut corners where we can. But there's some things that don't need to be cut on or shouldn't, because you're getting your money's worth in most cases with photography because any photographer with a good portfolio isn't slacking off. They're putting a ton into that set.

That's good to hear, and I hope it all goes 100% for you! :)

Here's hoping, too! Thanks for the well-wishes! \o/

Sarcasm tildes aside, there's literally nothing wrong with offering some sort of extra exposure in exchange for a discount. They don't have to say yes, and some businesses end up getting more out of the free advertising than whatever the difference between their quote and your offer is.

So stop being a judgey twat.

I'm not being a judgey twat. It's seen as being a cheapskate in the design world to offer exposure and anyone offering exposure so they get a reduced price is usually a cheapskate devaluing the work done.

Rarely does the business gotten from such actually make a difference, and if they needed exposure you probably wouldn't have found them anyway. If you want professional work, you pay a professional price. You don't haggle with a surgeon for ~exposure~, you don't haggle with your waiter for ~exposure~, you don't haggle with most people saying they'll get exposure if they cut you a deal. It's no different here.

Honey, you can keep using "~exposure~" all you want, it's not going to make your point for you, especially on the surgeon example. Because my father is a surgeon, and you're right. You don't haggle with surgeons over exposure. Because surgeons don't need exposure in the same way people in the arts do. He often talks about how humbling the speed with which people will put their life in his hands when they need an operation.

And sure, you don't haggle with your waiter. But have you seriously never seen burger places offering BOGO or other coupons on new products? Or restaurants with steep deals and discounts on opening day? Do you think that discount is just to be nice to folks? No. It's to get good word of mouth. You know. ~Exposure~

But that's a sale. That's not the customer deciding you're asking too much and saying, "I want this but refuse to pay the full price." Because often, they'll still come back and pay for that full price. So your point is moot.

When people haggle with artists for exposure, it's not because they legitimately want to give exposure, or the person needs it. They'll often get jobs, and the ones you go to tend to already have plenty of it. They offer exposure because that's how little they think of the artist's time and don't want to pay someone to, and I quote what someone has said, "stand around and take pictures that my grandmother could with her cheap disposable."

You're burger example is something THE DEALER SETS. If a photographer was having a special sale (tweet this and fill out this survey and get 5% or w/e) that would be one thing and totally cool, but haggling with them is pretty rude and disrespectful, and someone telling you that it comes off as rude does not make them a judgey twat, actually

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