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[ SECRET POST #3234 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3234 ⌋

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[Golden Girls]

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[Boku no Hero Academia]

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[C.S. Lewis vs. J.R.R. Tolkien]

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[Pokémon, Leah Remini]

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[Tales of Zestiria]

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[The Man In The High Castle]

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[Marjorie Liu, Sana Takeda, Monstress]

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[Sleepy Hollow]

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CS Lewis is kind of a crappy writer, and also he seems personally annoying to me. He just always comes across as incredibly smug and self-satisfied and kind of shallow. Cannot stand CS Lewis.

Also a pedophile.

Can you prove this?

Like I get opinions and all but, calling someone a pedophile is a serious accusation that people seem to like to throw around in idle speculation.

It's common knowledge that her raped the little girl who lived next to him. He based Alice in Wonderland on his repeated victim.

That's Lewis Carol, now CS Lewis.

Ah.
Ok then, nevermind.

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God help me, but this mix up amused me a little.

I'll just see myself out...

Wait, what?

Also, the comment as applied to Carroll is *completely without any evidential foundation*, much like a lot of things that people around here call "common knowledge" - i.e. ignorant gossip.

You've already been corrected about who it was, but I believe even that's urban legend?

a) Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland, not CS Lewis. CS Lewis was a totally different person.

b) It's not common knowledge at all for Lewis Carroll, historians believe that this rumor comes from dissonance about what kind of behavior around kids was acceptable for adults to show (and no, by "behavior" I don't mean molesting, I mean doing weird things like playing with them and talking to them as if you were a child yourself, which people assume would only happen as a deliberate ploy to molest a kid nowadays, but was just sort of weird and immature back then.)

Even if you're thinking of Lewis Carroll, no, it's not actually common knowledge. /eyeroll

Yeah, no.

I don't think there's any evidence of C. L. Dodgson (a.k.a. Lewis Carroll) sexually assaulting Alice. I think he was interested in photography and she was a favourite photographic subject of his. Speaking as a onetime avid amateur photographer, I'm a touch insulted that people think this kind of thing.

Don't believe what you read in trashy "historical" novels. Dodgson was an odd duck, but it's not proven he was a rapist, and many people who've read the letters think it was unlikely. He did dote on her, yes.

Also, obviously, C. S. Lewis is an entirely different person. They weren't even contemporaries. And Lewis is of course an absurdly common name. I have an old friend named Chris Lewis; do you want to accuse him as well?

I wouldn't say i can't stand him, but while I loved his stuff as a kid I don't anymore. I don't like his writing style at all and his hamfisted allegory doesn't work for me (I feel the same way about Pullman, I only like author tract stuff when it is subtle and woven into the world rather than slammed in reader's faces).

Pullman's author tract stuff bothers me as much as it does with Lewis, but I think he's more enjoyable purely as a writer once you set that aside.

I agree with that. I liked Pullman's first two books quite a bit. It was just the third one that became more about author tract than telling the story. Lewis's books are clearly for children and while I enjoyed them when I was in the right age group, once I grew up and tried to reread them there was just no substance there. No character, no depth, nothing but allegory and a rather boring, half-assed worldbuilding.

It's kind of weird to see you say that his books are for kids since I'm more familiar with his religious and other non-fiction writings than his fiction. Although my favorite thing he wrote is The Screwtape Letters.

Personally, I've read both his children's fiction and his other work & I'm equally annoyed by both.

I meant Narnia specifically. But even in his other stuff the writing style is very child-like to me. Even when the subject is more adult, the writing style is still more the style for childrens books.

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I don't know if I would go as far as to say I cannot stand reading Narnia anymore, but I did have a similar experience as you when I read it again, around when the Disney LWW movie came out. That was also around the time I read The Hobbit, so I had the comparision of two writers well-known for being friends.

I also feel, especially when compared to The Hobbit, that Narnia comes over rather condescending.

He seems like a really nice person though. He always seems very kind to all the children who wrote him letters, and to the children he encountered (his own adopted ones and the ones he housed for a time).

I can see being annoyed by his writing style. He's not subtle. I personally admire his devotion to his faith though.

It's completely possible he was a nice person IRL but I just cannot stand his writing. And I don't mind his faith any more than I mind Tolkien's.

Okay. Your original post made it sound like you hated the man. I can understand disliking his writing.

Well, you're not totally wrong, because I dislike his writing in a way that comes from his writing style & the attitude that it implies to me. Judging solely from his writing style, I do dislike him. But it's possible that he was different in real life, is what I'm getting across.

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