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Just accept that you're not as pro-choice as you thought you were. There's not really anything you can do to change your internal reaction, but you can at least control how you treat women who have had or are going to have an abortion. Just don't turn into one of those judgemental people.

Eh, there's a difference between "this thing squicks me out" and "I am against the whole concept of this thing."

Medical dramas with really gory up-close depictions of surgery give me some pretty visceral discomfort, so I don't watch them, no matter how good the show might be otherwise. Doesn't mean I'm secretly opposed to letting people have heart transplants.

This.

Sorry, but this is nonsense. Being pro-choice doesn't mean that you friggin' love abortions. It's about the choice.

Well, OP sure sounded like they're not as sure about their pro-choice stance as they once were, so...

It sounds more like they're afraid that not wanting to watch someone get an abortion makes them less pro-choice somehow.

Well, right there's one reason we separate the term "pro-choice" from "pro-abortion." Being politically pro-choice doesn't mean you like abortion in general, or think it's a great idea in every circumstance. It's about letting some pregnancies be terminated, for various pragmatic reasons.

I don't watch this show, so I don't know the context here. It may have been really squick to me, and I'm rather seriously in favour of liberal abortion rights.

No, didn't you get the memo that you need to love the idea of anyone getting an abortion for any reason at all? Someone has an abortion fetish and gets one every week? You better not have any problem with that or you're not really pro-choice!

-- basic summary of an actual post on Facebook about why we shouldn't have to point out that abortions are only .3% of Planned Parenthood's spending in order to defend them

I actually remember someone here claiming to have abortions once every few months as a fetish.

Well, right there's one reason we separate the term "pro-choice" from "pro-abortion." Being politically pro-choice doesn't mean you like abortion in general, or think it's a great idea in every circumstance. It's about letting some pregnancies be terminated, for various pragmatic reasons.

This. And being pro-choice also means that you would also support a woman choosing to carry out the pregnancy or give the baby up for adoption if she so wished (and nobody should be allowed to force a woman who makes either of those choices to choose differently, either).

I don't get why that's such a hard stance for some people to understand.

Being politically pro-choice doesn't mean you like abortion in general, or think it's a great idea in every circumstance. It's about letting some pregnancies be terminated, for various pragmatic reasons.

So pretty much being pro-choice as long as you can choose when it's acceptable for a woman to have an abortion?

Oh stop it. You know as well as everyone else that this isn't saying that.

But yeah, full stop, I'll say it:

I am going to judge you if you use abortions as birth control.

Sorry not sorry. It's a painful medical procedure, it's expensive, there are always risks, and if you can't take a fuckin' pill or slap on a goddamn condom (or just get a goddamn tube tying operation) and you use abortion as your defacto morning after pill?

I AM JUDGING YOU SO HARD.

It doesn't mean I want to take the fundamental right to have an abortion away from you, but I can think you as a specific person are abusing the system without being ~pro-life~.

How about when someone is using protection and it fails? Would you still be JUDGING [THEM] SO HARD? When would you not judge a woman SO HARD for having an abortion? Honestly curious question.

Are you being this stupid on purpose or does it come naturally? Of COURSE an abortion in case of failed protection is fine. That's not what we're talking about. Stop being so dense, you're about to turn into an intellectual black hole.

You're aware that many people who say they're pro-choice only think it's okay if the woman can present proof that the pregnancy is the result of rape, right? You said that in some cases an abortion is an acceptable choice, so I wanted to find out if you were one of those people.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-11-24 02:01 (UTC) - Expand

AYRT

Since you said it's an honestly curious question:

Absolutely fucking not. I'm not going to judge a woman who used protection and it fails. I'm also not going to judge a stupid mistake or two. But I draw the line at willful, repeated offenses. Again, I'm not going to lobby to take the right for birth control away from a woman like that, but I'm still going to judge them. Any woman who casually mentions that this is her 9th abortion in 4 years is going to get a HUGE side-eye from me. (And again, even that could have exceptions, I will never judge a woman in an abusive relationship who feels that these are her only way out, etc. I am talking very specifically about women who are in control of themselves and their partners and have access to birth control but repeatedly do not use it.) I can still think someone is making a horrible choice as a human being without wanting to punish every single woman for that individual abusing the system and their own bodies because they can't be assed to take it upon themselves to use birth control, or have their partners use birth control.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-11-24 07:10 (UTC) - Expand

Just out of curiosity, but have you always been an asshole? Because the issues of how many or few abortions a person has, as well as why they have them, are none of your goddamn business in the first fucking place.

I hope you never once have to experience the down-the-nose judgemental looks from pieces of shit such as your own self. I do hope you get hit by a bus tho, fuckwipe.

Ooooooohhhhhhh you're gonna cut yourself on that edge anon.

Lol what the actual fuck? They have a better stance on birth control than a bunch of you whackadoos in this thread who act like women are somehow above judgment completely for making bad life choices and if you don't get wet to the thought of abortions and LOVE THEM that you're a bad feminist and a bad human being. Ohhh they're such a horrible person boohoo they might silently think someone could have made better choices I HOPE THEY GET RUN OVER WITH A TRUCK.

I hope you get run over by a rolling abortion clinic van. It would be the perfect irony for wastes like you who get so fucking offended at literally everything that isn't GRRRL POWER 4EVA WOMEN R ALWAYS RIGHT HDU QUESTION A WOMAN ON ANYTHING EVER ABLOOBLOOOBLOOOOO. If anything, I commend OP for still standing up for these women's RIGHT to abort even if they personally feel they've taken some wrong-turns along the way. There's a difference between thinking something is okay, and wanting to take that human right away from them. I don't like radfems, I think they're a waste of human skin and they've single-handedly fucked feminism's image into the ground, but there's a difference between me judging the fuck out of them and saying that I think they should have their right to free speech taken away because I don't disagree with their opinions.

Literally nobody does that.

I can't be everywhere at once. You didn't have to post three times pretending to be three different people just because I took a while to respond. You're not even mad for anything I've done, you're mad for something you THINK I'm saying.

I remember someone here said that doing so is common in Japan, because carrying birth control is more of a taboo (it gives the impression that you're expecting to have sex at any given moment, in other words that you're slutty) than having an abortion.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-11-24 05:39 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2015-11-24 07:23 (UTC) - Expand

It's a painful medical procedure, it's expensive

If it's expensive and painful (and in many people's cases, they have to travel hundreds of miles to get it) then why are you judging them "so hard"? Don't you think they'd have a pretty good reason why they were having to get an abortion? Like you said, a pill or the condom is much more convenient.

I don't think I would judge anyone, but I would wonder why a woman is getting frequent abortions instead of using easier methods of control.

Rubbish. Being pro-choice is not the same thing as pro-abortion, or liking all aspects of it. That's the argument of the antis, that we are all longing to kill babies.

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