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⌈ Secret Post #410 ⌋

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Just an anon popping by to gush about how awesome you other anons are. Srsly, talking critically about popular fics = ohfuckyes.

And so I'll add in my two cents - oh yes the Yuffentine was tacked on, but I feel the same way about the Tifa/Zack. Honestly, they were just boring side pairings that existed to get in the way of the point of the fic, which was Cloud digging himself into a hole of horrible wangsty despair. (The Turkpile was awesome, though. Damn. Fandom needs moar Turk orgy.) Any of the other drama was totally overshadowed by the S/C.

Coming as a regular of the KH fandom where everything is an AU and characterization is butchered on a regular basis... I'd have to agree on the 'it makes internal sense as an AU' front. I really have less problem with Cloud's wangsting (given that he has plenty of excuse within the fic) than I do with Sephiroth, who doesn't get nearly as much attention and is, well, if not quite woobified, at least halfway there.

That kind of thing gets hit with a lot of S/C fic, though - either Sephiroth is a psycho or a woobie, with no middle ground. I prefer Sephiroth psycho. Yes, with Cloud. Abusing him horribly. With no 'Leon' to come in and save Cloud's ass with his healing cock.

Oh, man, I wasn't expecting anyone else to get sucked into our nonsense! XD But welcome!

The Tifa/Zack was also a bit tacked on, yes, but I could see Tifa and Zack as having actual chemistry if one were to stick them in a room together. Tifa/Zack is also not a hugely popular fan pairing, so it didn't feel like the author was "selling out", so to speak, when it showed up in the fic. Tifa/Zack also has the automatic advantage of containing Zack, who tends to make all things more bearable, if not more interesting.

I do kind of feel LHR needed the side pairings and side plots and such, because otherwise Cloud's wangsty hole of despair would've gotten terribly monotonous. And it set the stage for a lot of character and world-building that I, personally, found fascinating. I like me some good worldbuilding, and the FFVII world is full of opportunities to do so.

I have never played KH! I probably never will, either, but I'd never actually thought to look at it in the context of a giant Disney/FF crossover AU- which it totally is, now that I think about it! And that's actually pretty cool, and kind of makes me want to play it so I can write long and pretentious critical essays comparing the original characters to their KH incarnations. (My English major is showing. *shifty eyes*)

I'm (to my great shame, at times) a huge fan of woobified Sephiroth, but that's because I really like my fic and my pairings to be happy. I'm not actually all that big a fan of misery porn (which is why it's funny that "A Long, Hard Road" is one of my favorite stories fandom has produced, because the whole thing is this huge wankfest of schadenfreude and it's Sephiroth/Cloud, which I tend to dislike). But hey, to each their own! I can see the evidence for Sephiroth being psycho or being a woobie, but I don't trust very many writers to manage the latter convincingly.

(Augh, the healing cock! It's just- what, does their semen contain Neosporin or something? LHR had a little bit of healing cock in it, and those were the sex scenes that made me cringe. I honestly found the scene where Cloud was a literal weeping uke (so to speak) to be more in character and less cringe-worthy than the scene where the sex is actually happy.)

my hair is announcing a new challenger!

...or something. By all means, welcome to our silliness.

I defended the Yuffietine for the argument's sake - it really does upset me as a pairing because I don't see them as ever having any sort of chemistry whatsoever, whereas I can see Zack/Tifa working when the opportunity presented itself. Yes, that opportunity itself was tacked on in the fic, but I don't mind that as much.

Yuffietine didn't bother me quite as much in LHR as it tends to because Yuffie had grown up, to a degree, and was a more mature individual. (In my head; however, Vincent goes back to being a Turk and gets in on the Turk orgy. Or lives alone somewhere.)

Although it was emotionally painful the first time I read it, on retrospect the first time Cloud and Seph have sex in LHR is my favorite, because of how in character I felt their reactions were. everything after that was a bit hollow.

I like human Sephiroth, and a stronger Cloud then I tend to see, but that's another discussion.

And semen actually does have slight medicinal properties. Burns, mostly. It's like aloe vera.

...aloe vera? It's not like it's coming out of Seymour Guado's hair, woman! It comes from a cock!

Otherwise, I have nothing more to respond to! I am completely in agreement (except about the Yuffentine, because I still view it as a sell-out), except about the aloe vera bit, but that's not something to be argued about.

It would seem this round goes to you (and your hair). But I'll get you next time!

You cannot bring Seymour Guado's hair into this argument. Discussion. What have you. That's like some sort of crazy Godwin's Law.

Don't argue with me when I'm right and you're wrong.

I am not fond of the Yuffentine, but can kind of - actually, that's a lie. He should be a part of the Turk orgy or live by himself somewhere. With his guilt. His burning, searing guilt. (Which, if it is rather like a burn, could be cured with a application of semen!)

We shall have to agree to...agree. Well played.

Don't argue with me when I'm right and you're wrong. Bitch.

You brought up spurious claims that semen is like aloe vera. I brought up Seymour's hair in response to the mention of aloe vera. IT'S A PERFECTLY LOGICAL CONNECTION. If I then went on to compare Seymour to Hitler to further discredit your aloe vera theory, then you could cry Godwin's law. But since I didn't, you can't. Nyah.

But, if one were going to apply semen to Vincent's burning, searing guilt, one might read that as an endorsement for Cid/Vincent. So, fine. You can have semen with anti-burn properties. But if I burn myself, I'll take the neosporin or the aloe vera over the semen, thanks.

THAT'S IT. I declare that we solve this through time honoured dueling traditions and play...a children's card game!

Or not. I'm not going to continue to argue with you. I can't possible imagine lowering myself to that level when I am so clearly RIGHT and you are so clearly WRONG.

Nothing justifies Cid/Vincent. It's even more inexplicable than Yuffentine. Well, maybe. BUT STILL.

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