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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-11 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3295 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-01-11 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to be equating rare pairs with crack ships, which is false.

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to have a ton of fic or art to enjoy a pairing.

"They all act so victimized".

Welp, right there you're telling an untruth. I've never acted victimized over shipping a rarepair. I don't mind it if my rarepair doesn't catch on at all; it just means I don't have to deal with a bunch of weird fanon for my pairings or de rigueur tropes I'm expected to use.

For a lot of series I prefer my own fic and never bother reading anyone else's, whether it's a juggernaut ship or a tiny one.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-01-12 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
People just...get into a dynamic between people sometimes, you know?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I mostly look for rare pair or crack ship out of boredom, to be honest. Most of my favorite pairings happen to be the fandom favorites but that's not to say I wouldn't like to be surprised by a pairing sometime.
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[personal profile] praetorian_guard 2016-01-12 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
You seem to be quite caught up on this.

Mostly I see this on tumblr, and if that's the case, just ... unfollow or block or tumblr savior or something? There's a lot of options. Fandom is often what you make of it.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I hate fandom's tendency to ship any two guys in a story. Even if they barely interact at all, or have reasons in canon to utterly despise each other, as long as they're both hot (and white) that's a juggernaut ship right there.

I don't get the appeal of jumping all those hoops just to imagine a couple of flavor-of-the-month dudes together. Why not write some original fiction that pushes all your buttons from the start???

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[personal profile] a_potato 2016-01-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's interesting how this secret just got increasingly hostile as it went on.

Anyway, for a lot of people, shipping isn't contingent on there being content for the ship; it's contingent on them feeling something for the pairing. And that feeling doesn't necessarily go away when the fanworks run dry.

Also, I'd say it's annoying when people aggressively hate on ships in general.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
But writing crackships is much more fun.

With big ships you have a ton of ship-tropes to rely on which can make writing them feel uncreative.
With a crackpair you have to think how the characters of those two people you ship would actually interact with each other. You have to get the psychology behind it right, because there is no actual background to rely on.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
you don't get to choose what you ship, it chooses you.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
1) there is no higher proportion of delusional crackshippers or rarepair shippers (different if overlapping things) than in any other group of humans. most of us like what we like in full knowledge that it's emphatically noncanonical.

(in fact it's the big juggernauts where the small delusional percentage is large enough to really whip itself and sometimes also more reasonable shippers into a frenzy, see: J2 tinhatters, sterek, etc)

2) no matter how annoyed you are at rareshippers resenting popular pairings, I *promise* you they have to put up with a jillion times more of the thing they don't like

3) literally by definition there is not much of the thing you dislike. LET IT GO.gif

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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2016-01-12 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's fun. Also, crack ships and rare pairs are not the same, though a rare pair can be a crack ship and vice versa.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-01-12 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't the whole point of a crack ship to be implausible?

For that matter, I thought that exploring character relationships outside of the limited and frequently monochrome palette offered by "canon" was the whole point of shipping.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
In general, I also think most rare pairs are rare for a reason (assuming the fanbase is large). Like yeah, lots (but not all) shows will skew toward slash. But in my experience, most pairs where the characters have enough screen time together, interact enough and have at least one scene that could be interpreted as "possible sexual tension" - have a fandom. It seems to me that, generally speaking, when people lament about rare pairs, they often are speaking of two characters that hardly or never interacted personally in the series.

For me, I don't ship anything unless I see a scene where I go "aha! Sparks!" So yeah, they need interaction, and some of that interaction has to feel intimate. It doesn't necessarily have to be the center stage pair, or a canon pair, it just have to feel like the characters intimately connected.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you talking about rare pairs and crack ships like they're the same thing? I have rare pairs between characters who are incredibly close in canon, but they're either side characters nobody in fandom cares about or they get shipped with other characters they're also close to. If Bob has two best friends, John and Jim, and Bob/John is the juggernaut, that doesn't make Bob/Jim a crack ship.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Rarepairs literally just mean pairings that are more rare in comparison to others.

People don't control how many people ship their ship, and there's no reason they shouldn't ship it or don't get to enjoy it because there's not as many people in it, and you don't like rarepairers.
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[personal profile] dahli 2016-01-12 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Who hurt you?

Also you sound awfully angry over other people shipping what they want and producing stuff for their preferred ship. So what f it's small or crack or rare? They are having fun so don't be a so salty and let them be.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot understand why you're so angry about this. It's not like they come up often; that's why they're called rare. You'd have to be actively searching for them to find enough to complain about.

People can ship what they like, regardless of character interaction. That's why fanfiction is so popular, it gives you what you won't find in canon.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2016-01-12 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
For me crack-ships are purely for fun, like it's not supposed to make sense it's just two characters(or more) who I think would be hilarious together, or awful but in a way that amuses me.

My rare-pairs on the other hand are ships that do make sense in their canons but the canon itself isn't well known or popular so they don't get much love. But I don't get angry at others for not knowing them, can't stop shipping them though and sometimes I wish they had more fic but eh, what can you do?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I know it's probably coincidence, but I sort of wonder if this is in response to the Kanera secret from before.

Then again it seems kind of trendy now for that kind het shippers to call any ship that isn't theirs "crack", like the Clintasha shippers.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCeFbK-WEVE

I agree with the above, crack ship does not equal rare pair. Also, it's not like there aren't a bunch of fairly common pairings where the characters have little to no interaction.

Mycroft/Lestrade, Papyrus/Mettaton, etc.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
My OTP is an RPS rare pare of two old ass musicians who have probably never even so much as thought about each other in reality.

Burn me alive.
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Thinking of my crackiest ship . . .

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-12 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
One character is very embedded in a particular routine and dynamic that contributes to her emotional issues. She's typically shipped with people in close proximity to her who clearly care about her and want to help her. But I feel like if they could somehow save her, they would have already done so. It seems like her best chance for a stable, mutual relationship is with someone outside the existing dynamic, and there aren't a lot of unattached adult characters she could believably get along with.

(Actually, this gets me thinking. There is another character who could probably be shipped with her, who I have never seen shipped with any other character, and unlike my usual ship, he has no preexisting grudge or rivalry with her group. Pearl/Jamie OTP? Nope, not really.)

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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-01-12 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I have a rare pair, it was based on a fanfic. Outside myself and the author of the fic I don't know if anyone else ships it (but if they do, they read that fic too). I don't really expect anyone to ship it either, because based on canon only, the pairing can never happen because one half died before the other was born.

The sort of shippers you seem to resent are probably the noisy ones, pushy twits who want more fic from everywhere and shove their ship in people's faces. (Okay, I might chatter about my ship a lot but I don't really expect anything, from anyone.)

You just need to calm the fuck down about this, and block anyone who gets in your face about a rare or cracky ship (and no, they're not the same thing).
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please touch grass.

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