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imo besides the people who actually knew the dead personally, everyone mourning over celebrity deaths feels so superficial to me.

it's like the classmate who comments three paragraphs on your dead classmate's facebook wall when they never bothered to talk to dead classmate when they were still living.

Yeah but most people didn't spend their entire childhood watching the dead classmate and listening to his words and purchasing media he played a huge part in. Dead classmate did not have any influence on their lives, so when they express regret it's just 'this is how you respond when people die.'

People don't know celebrities personally but that doesn't mean they don't have an influence on them.

scriptwriter probably had more influence on those movies, but it's not like anyone gives a shit when they die.

I've definitely seen people get upset over script writers and directors. Jim Henson caused quite a stir.

But there's also a difference between the abstract idea of a story and the concrete idea of someone in front of you, moving and speaking, and enjoying them in most or all roles they play.

I think it's summarized pretty well in this tweet that's circulating FB (I know, I know, but it really is kind of good):

Thinking about how we mourn artists we've never met. We don't cry because we knew them, we cry because they helped us know ourselves.
— Juliette (@ElusiveJ) January 11, 2016

This should be embroidered on a goddamn pillow.

Folks are entitled to their own opinions about how cheesy it is to mourn someone "you've never even met!" but I wish they would quit trying to invalidate mourners' feelings. I can think of at least one or two people whose death has torn or will tear me up inside completely.

Eh, I don't know if that comparison is entirely accurate. If someone wasn't a fan of the celebrity in question and they're suddenly mourning their death, then yeah, I might find that a little odd (though, hey, death brings with it inexplicable reactions and emotions sometimes, so who knows).

But if someone I'm a big fan of passes away, I will be genuinely sad about their death, because they created a lot of work I and other fans enjoyed/were inspired by, work that meant something to the fans in some way, shape, or form. Obviously I don't know my favorite celebrities personally, and as a result, sure, their death won't affect me the way it would their immediate family and friends. But it still wouldn't stop me being sad that they're gone.

But it still wouldn't stop me being sad that they're gone.

Yup. I still have a hard time in bookstores, because it was always my routine to go check and see what was new from Terry Pratchett. Now that's never going to happen again, and even though it's just a small part of my life, it still hurts.

Aw :(. Yeah, I can understand that feeling, definitely.

I think sometimes, too, if you're within the same age range as them, their death can be upsetting because it's just another reminder of mortality. We build celebrities up so much to where it feels like they can live forever, so their deaths can be a painful reminder of reality.

Or if the celebrity died young, it can be sad because people dying young in general is always tragic. Amy Winehouse was only a year older than me, so her death was surreal to me 'cause someone in their late 20s shouldn't be dead, you know?

yeah, i think you're underestimating just how much of an impact some celebs make on fans' lives.

Well, in addition to being a fan of both Bowie and Rickman, I'm also upset they died of cancer. Half my family went from cancer, and my mom has terminal liver cancer. Do I have permission to be sad? Death isn't happy fun party time.

Good points, and I'm sorry about your mom.

The thing that really bugs me is how people seem to be mourning the characters rather than the actors. I've seen so many posts about Snape and it's just weird. I know some actors are known for certain roles but they're not that character; they're a real person.

Oh god this argument again.

It's perfectly okay to mourn the death of anyone at any time because someone dying is a sad thing. There's never not something sad about it.

I've cried over the deaths of: people I barely-knew-but-mostly-disliked IRL; famous people whose work brought me enjoyment; strangers from news stories who died in especially tragic ways.

I get so fed up with people claiming this is "superficial" or something to be ashamed of. It's not.

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