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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-26 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3310 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3310 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Burn Notice]


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03.
[Devil’s Rejects]


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04.
(Jennifer Lawrence)


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05.
[David Bowie]


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06.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation, Wesley Crusher]


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07.
[Mushishi - Shrine in the sea]


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08.
[William Daniels and Alan Rickman]


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09.
[Doctor Who]


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10.
[Rocky Horror Picture Show]


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11.
[Psych]


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12.
[Star Wars prequels, Twilight saga]
















Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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raspberryrain: http://neutralx0.net/tool/bnmk_e.html (I am not a catgirl)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-01-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
But Sam used to inform on him to the FBI!

OK, actually, you know what? Why even argue with a slashie about Michael and Sam's relationship, or Michael and Fi's?

I see your points. They're good points. But it's still a show about straight men.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
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But Sam used to inform on him to the FBI!

Lol I have a feeling you didn't catch the nuances of that very well, did you? Michael knew this and condoned it, and Sam spoon-fed the FBI half-truths and bogus crap, his friendship with Michael always came first, that was a huge part of their relationship throughout the series.


OK, actually, you know what? Why even argue with a slashie about Michael and Sam's relationship, or Michael and Fi's?


Ummmmm....what? What even is this comment? I can't even begin what you're trying to say beyond it seeming like you're not-so-subtly putting down people who enjoy slash, and then saying people can't comment about Michael and Fiona's relationship because...reasons?

I see your points. They're good points. But it's still a show about straight men.

Again, what? So like basically every other show with a large slash fandom following ever, right? That doesn't mean OP's points aren't valid, and I have no idea what you're trying to say with "it's about straight men!", like no shit? (Although that's pretty heteronormative, straight is not the default, and one or both men could easily be bisexual in canon.) We can still talk abut problems in fandom surrounding shipping, because....you know....we're on Fandom Secrets, and that's kind of what we do, talk about fandom shit.
raspberryrain: (roll eyes)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-01-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I know, OK? I know.

Michael and Sam were good friends. Almost like brothers. They're shippable. But you are not entitled to have other people ship what you ship.

You complain that fans who slashify this very straight show don't ship the obvious pair of close buddies at the middle of the show? Why? The text of the show is incredibly straight. They're heterosexual best friends. Canon is not on your side.

Since it's all reinventing the premises anyway, if slashers will ship two guys who fit the slasher's physical type, well, that's what slash is for! It's usually not about representation, and it's not really about an expanded interpretation of canon; it's mostly about lust and kink.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-27 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, you are sooo parade-raining right now.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-27 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
Lmfao this all reads like "I'm super homophobic but trying reeeeally hard not to show it". Seriously, could have have said "straight" or "heterosexual" any more times in one sentence?

It's like "*Heavy breathing* They're STRAIGHT. Canon doesn't agree with you! STRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIGHT. HET-ER-OH-SECK-SUAL GODDAMNIT!!!"

What slash fan pissed in your cheerios?

Also lol at the 'canon is not on your side' thing, there was a decent amount of subtext in Burn Notice, Sam and Michael definitely had a bromance going on, enough of one that like OP said, the actors picked up on it. Slash is absolutely about subtext in most cases, and acting like there isn't any subtext to be found here is just making you look like you've got some sour grapes going on.
raspberryrain: (smile)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-01-27 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, OK, you got me. I'm really homophobic.

Again, there's no point arguing with shippers, so I just deleted the giant comment I wrote. Which is sad, because there are now no comments in this thread mentioning Coby Bell and Grant Show's characters. Oh, well!