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Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Tell us about your incest ships. Not only who you ship, but how you like it (i.e. messed up, fluffy, etc.). How did you come to ship incest? What about your ships appeals to you? What was your first incest ship? Most recent?

Do you ever make a non-incest ship incestuous? What counts as incest to you?

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

I like it fluffy. I ship Stiles/Sheriff Stilinski. Also, Peter/Derek/Stiles but not just Peter/Derek.

Re: Inspired by #7

[kaijinscendre]

My first incest ship was Michael/Lincoln from Prison Break! These days I ship Thor/Loki (which only sort of counts), Merle/Daryl from The Walking Dead, and I used to ship Dean Winchester/John Winchester.

I prefer fluffy but will read messed up as long as there is no non-con. Incest for me is anything closer than cousins.

Re: Inspired by #7

[diet_poison]

Why does Thor/Loki only sort of count?

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

waaaaaaaa?? Michael deserves so much better than Linc.

Re: Inspired by #7

[herpymcderp]

Don't generally like incest ships as ships per se.

However, I don't mind it if there's an incest pairing that's written as fucked up and unhealthy or weird and slightly awkward and one sided... or generally anything else that seems realistic. I just find that to be interesting writing if it plays with character psychology well.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I don't "ship" Norma and Norman Bates on "Bates Motel", so to speak, but do I find their incredibly twisted and disturbing relationship an interesting thing to watch unfold? Yep.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Incest used to be a squick for me but SPN wore me down, so Sam/Dean was my first ship (followed closely by John/Dean). Now incest is my favorite kink and I have dozens and dozens of ships.

My most recent ships are Thor/Loki, Barry/Joe, and Thorin/Fili. I don't like when incestuous pairings are rewritten to take the incestuous part out, and I will play up the incestuous undertones to any pairing that could possibly fit.

I definitely like fluffy, romantic stories and not messed up ones. Incest to me is anything that has a strong family-element to it, so non-blood can read as incestuous depending on the characters/fandom.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Bruce Wayne/Jason Todd

I like Jason with Daddy issues
one-sided on Jason's end, I just picture Bruce being freaked out by it and ignoring the problem
mostly i got into it because it's like what happens in canon but with an added sexual element to make it even more messed up.

and i totally count adoption as incest, people like to argue that it isn't because genetics... but that's not what the problem with incest is to me... it's all about the power/relationship dynamics

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

ohhh my friend, I know exactly what you mean. I ship Dick, Jason, AND Tim with Bruce in weird and slightly different ways /o\

Re: Inspired by #7

[elaminator]

I've never wanted to make a non-incest ship incestuous. If I'm into the dynamic then I'm into the dynamic and it doesn't need to change.

Let's see which ones I can remember...

Peter/Nathan was one of my first, from Heroes. The actors had an insane amount of chemistry and the show didn't help with the way some of Peter and Nathan's scenes were written. I vaguely remember a scene where (I think) Nathan was looking through a box of pictures, and there was like one picture of him and his wife at their wedding, and a million of him and Peter looking like a happy couple. It just made me laugh. I never read all that much fic, but I liked their relationship being a combination of fluffy and messed up; it felt true.

Then Dean/Sam from Supernatural. Again, the chemistry, the dynamics (co-dependent, unresolved childhood issues, the insane things they'll do to protect one another, etc), all of that appealed to me and I got sucked up in it. That's probably the incest ship I like the most. (Though I've been out of the fandom for years, and don't keep up with the show anymore.)

I think I kind of shipped Ed and Al from FMA, but I didn't think of it as sexual as I do most ships. Later came Thor/Loki and I also like the thought of Wanda/Pietro (MCU) and Herc/Chuck (Pacific Rim).

Oh, and Kili/Fili from The Hobbit, River/Simon from Firefly, a couple things from Dead or Alive (Ayane/Hayate, Kasumi/Ayane, to a lesser extent Kasumi/Hayate), and a couple things from The Chronicles of Narnia. (Mostly Peter/Edmund and Peter/Susan.)

Plus that one ship from BioShock.

(TBH I'm sure I'm leaving things out... I have a lot of incest ships.)

Re: Inspired by #7

[nightscale]

I think Peter/Claire was my first incest ship, and it will always stick with me because I shipped it before it was revealed as incest, and then kept on shipping it anyway because I already liked the dynamic and my brain liked the mess it created.

Thor/Loki is frankly not overly healthy even without incest added in, what with Loki being a giant bag of dicks and manipulating Thor whenever he can. Again I like it for the mess it would create.

Nuada/Nuala, this one is almost canon imo, at least from Nuada's end, and much like Thor/Loki even without an incest reading it's a very unhealthy relationship. Nuada is extremely controlling of Nuala, even though he claims to love her and his love for her damns them both in the end. So once again, I like it for the mess.

Fili/Kili, this one is actually pretty healthy in the canon so I do feel a bit bad for shipping it, but for whatever reason it pinged for me and I could take a more handwavy 'these relationships happen with dwarves' approach or have it be treated as messy as it should be.

Wanda/Pietro, I ship them in most universes tbh, again because their relationship is pretty messy at times in the comics and Pietro really has a huge Big Brother complex. Plus they were canon for all of 5 mins in the Ultimates universe and that was kind of hilarious.

For me incest counts if they're related at all and adopted siblings definitely count for this imo(though if people want to tag it as pseudo-incest that's fine, but it shouldn't be untagged at all), I can't say what makes them appeal to me though, the fucked-upness of it I guess?

I think if someone wants to write an AU where they're not related that's fine, not my bag but idc, but as far as the canon goes trying to play it off as not incest, especially with adopted siblings, wont fly with me. Accept it and roll in the mess people, it's okay.

Re: Inspired by #7

[shortysc22]

Peter/Claire (Paire haha) was my first and only because it wasn't revealed as incest as first and I really liked their dynamic. But for them, it's different that they didn't know each other growing up, he didn't know she was his niece and that adds a whole different layer. But I love reading them. Season 1/2 Heroes was the best.

Re: Inspired by #7

[ghostofcairo]

For me it's more about the character dynamics than it being incest, specifically. Childhood friends are one of my favorite dynamics to ship and incest is kind of a more extreme version of that, I guess. I wouldn't want to make a non-incestuous ship incest, though, and if one of my incest ships weren't related (but everything else was exactly the same) I'd still ship them because like I said, it's the dynamic between the characters rather than it being incest that makes me ship it. I'm fine with messed up or fluffy, as long as I find it interesting.

I'm not 100% positive but I think it probably started with reading Flowers in the Attic as a preteen. I guess that was my first incest ship, and I still shipped them in the recent movie series. I shipped various pairs of siblings on soap operas that I watched with my mom as a preteen/young teen, too.

I know there were some others after that but not anything I can remember right now (I know there were ones from different books). The next big ones I really remember are Michael/Linc from Prison Break and Sam/Dean from Supernatural which were right around the same time. Those two mainly for the crazy lengths they'd go to to protect/save each other. And let's see...Michael/GOB from Arrested Development, Fili/Kili from The Hobbit, Raleigh/Yancy from Pacific Rim (as brief as it was), Milo/Maggie from The Skeleton Key, Dexter/Deb from Dexter, Ian/Lip from Shameless, Sookie/Jason from True Blood (very slightly), Spencer/Melissa, Spencer/Jason, Ali/Jason, and Aria/Mike from Pretty Little Liars, Jaye/Aaron from Wonderfalls, Hank/Evan from Royal Pains, Gabby/Antonio from Chicago Fire/PD (though not so much anymore since she's annoying these days), Nate/David from Six Feet Under. Various pairs from different movies. And I'm probably still forgetting some because I have a ton.

Most recently I've (oddly) gotten really into Chin/Kono from Hawaii Five-0. (Odd because I've always been all about Steve/Danny when it comes to that show but I've been kind of meh on them lately...I was disappointed with the most recent big "shipper" episode and in general the writing for them hasn't been great IMO). Also, and this is embarrassing to admit I even watch the show, but lately I'm shipping the leads from The Grinder. Oh, and Angus and Mike from Code Black, potentially (they haven't shared many scenes so far since Mike hasn't been around long, but I could definitely see myself shipping it).

Re: Inspired by #7

[teaphile]

It only works for me if they weren't raised together (so even unrelated siblings would squick me) and expressed attraction before it was revealed they were related.

So basically Luke/Leia, Benton Fraser/Maggie Mackenzie.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have an incest kink really, but I'll ship incest ships if I find the relationships interesting.

Most recent thing I've started shipping is Ichimatsu/Karamatsu from Osomatsu-san. Their dynamic is so great and fucked up.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

THE BORGIAS


years and years of fandom without any incest ships (and I loved shit like Supernatural and Heroes and Firefly in their heyday, where evvvvvvveryone seemed to ship it but me) and this bastard ruined my shit. THANKS, SHOW.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Um. I'm not familiar with that show but that dude looks, like, at least in his 20s and that girl looks like, idk, 10-12?

I suppose my real, true first was Simon & Simon.

[(Anonymous)]

It was right there in the title! I didn't really know what shipping was at the time, being very young, but I thought they should take care of each other and maybe get married. I guess I also sort of shipped the Dukes (Bo, Luke, and Daisy), not sure if that counts since they're cousins, and the Hardy boys. So, yeah, been doing it a while.

I guess I tend to go for the fluffy, though I like a little acknowledgment that it's taboo because that's part of the reason I like it.

My most recent was probably Jonas brothers (yeah, at the time they were underage, religious brothers with purity rings, taboos all over the place).

spoilers for Tales of the Abyss

[(Anonymous)]

I ship Jade/Nephry from Tales of the Abyss like burning, and I like it...almost any which way, but generally it's best if it's kinda fucked up with a side of fluff, if that makes sense? Like, there's a lot of love there, but it's all twisted around through misunderstandings and lies and everything else that went wrong.

Spoilers ahoy, but it's extremely telling to me that Jade was actually present at Nephry's wedding (an arranged marriage she didn't want at all), despite everything. Even though she's still afraid that he wants to resurrect their Professor, he's a very needed source of support to her, and he's willing to be that. He's also willing to let her believe that he's dead-- he had no intention of returning to Keterburg after the fall of Akzeriuth, and only went because he had to. He probably figured she'd be better off without him.

I don't know, there's just a lot there, and it breaks my heart. Plus it'd be super hot, idec.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Sam/Dean from Supernatural, but that's it.

Re: Inspired by #7

[dancingmouse]

I used to ship Luke/Leia when I was a young child, back before I knew they were brother and sister.

Connor/Haythem from Assassin's Creed. Which, to be honest, is the only incest "couple" I like.

Now, incest to me is mainly based on blood relation. If they're related by blood, it's incest. If they're not, it's not incest. Some circumstances can muddy that up a bit (Like older child adoption, step siblings, etc.) but it's still not incest to me.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Peter/Nathan from Heroes was probably my first incest ship. I just loved their dynamic together.

I shipped Lucrezia/Cesare from The Borgias like burning because the actors' chemistry was off the charts. I liked their dynamic to be at least a bit fucked up.

A teeny tiny part of my ships Lip/Fiona from Shameless.

Re: Inspired by #7

[(Anonymous)]

Neji and Hinata. I don't like incest at all, I just found their story compelling. Am I the Nejihina anon? I may be >.>

I really hope Reylo is not incest omg.....

Re: Inspired by #7

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Ahh incest! I have shipped thee mightily! Let me list the ways!

Going through my major fandoms:

Baldur's Gate: Sarevok/Imoen - I once read a discussion about Bhaalspawn and incest that had David Gaider weigh in on it and the basic opinion was that two bhaalspawn with differeing mothers might not, on a genetic level, be siblings, with the only thing linking them being the divine taint.
I shipped these two in Throne of Bhaal, where Sarevok was changing his outlook (he canonically can change alignment as the result of certain dialogues), and after the end of the game where both of them have had the aforementioned taint removed and they are no longer bhaalspawn. So it's debatable how incestuous it counts as being, but I'm sure some fans will still say "Bhaalspawn are siblings! No exceptions!".

Dragonball Z: Goku/Gohan, Mirai Trunks/Mirai Bulma, Goku/Radditz - offhand those are the top ones I can think of.

Harry Potter: Weasleycest, with Fred/George the most common, a bit of Malfoycest, and one time I stumbled across a necrophilia Pottercest fic. More recently I read a fic where Harry was transported to a world where the child of James and Lily was a girl and ended up falling in love with her. It was handwaved away with something about their genetics not being exactly the same due to probabilities.

Lord of the Rings: Elladan/Elrohir, Thranduil/Legolas, Elrond/Elros, Maedhros/Maglor, Maedhris/Fingon, Fëanor/Fingolfin. One time I even found an Elrond/Arwen fic (it was all a Ring-induced bad dream though).

Final Fantasy VII: I don't think this fandom has much in the way of incest opportunities, to be honest.

Final Fantasy VIII: Laguna/Squall. Shipped that hard.

Transformers: Sideswipe/Sunstreaker was pretty popular so I read it a fair bit.

Doctor Who: Not much available here either?

SPN: It took me less than a month to start reading Wincest when I got into SPN.

The Hobbit: Fíli/Kíli happened, I tired of Thorin/Kíli fast though and wished there was more Thorin/Fíli instead. I still ship that in RP, plus my Silmaril characters consider themselves daughters of Fëanor yet that didn't stop Elenlossë marrying Maglor, or Kizár bonding with Anvari when he's related by adoption to her one way or another.

Dragon Age: The one place I feel gives a chance for incest is DA2, and I have read at least one Marian/Carver fic, possibly a Garrett/Bethany one somewhere along the line too.