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http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/10/sherrilyn-kenyon-sues-cassandra-clare-for-wilfully-copying-her-novels

Cassie Clare's at it again.

Considering how much I hate Sherrilyn Kenyon, I'm not entirely sure I feel all that bad for her. But still, ugh.

Just curious, why do you hate her?

I once bought this book about essays on Buffy. Her essay was about how Buffy was best when she was weakest because otherwise she was emasculating to the men in her life. I've never been able to forgive her for that.

Oh....ah.

Yikes. I can get that.

whoa what the fuck

That was pretty much my reaction. She writes very stereotypical paranormal romance stuff with "alpha" males. Which is fine if that's your thing, but she talks in her essay as if all men should be like that and all women should be fine with sitting back and letting their man be the hero. And that so totally and completely misses the point of Buffy.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

For some reason I initially felt disinclined to believe what you were saying about Sherrilyn Kenyon. I thought maybe you were just trying to derail the conversation about Claire's (much debated) plagiarism. So I dug up Kenyon's article. And I am just speechless. I...holy shit. I'm sorry I doubted you.

A few direct quotes for anyone interested in seeing the insanity for themselves:

"As Angel becomes more involved with Buffy, we see in him a dramatic change where he becomes weaker while she grows stronger. When he finally succumbs to her and they sleep together, I believe it isn’t so much his soul leaving him that turns him into Angelus as it is Angel seeing the writing on the wall and knowing that if something doesn’t change instantly, he will be as dead from her testosterone-drain-age as a vampire victim is from blood loss."

"Now that Spike no longer has balls, it begs the question: who will be next? I thought for a minute Willow might have them, but, as we saw, Buffy the Testosterone-Sucking Vampire, with the help of her emasculated Xander, defeated her."

"Even Riley Finn succumbed to her gonad-feeding frenzy."

And THE WHOLE ARTICLE is like this. I don't...I can't...wow.

Read the wayback'd article here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110224220915/http://www.smartpopbooks.com/1405?

Yup. Its actually worse than I remembered. Ugh.

good lord, that's worse than I expected. "gonad-feeding frenzy" is cracking me up

Welp doesn't surprise me. If she's self absorbed and narcissistic enough to sue people over copying common tropes in the genre, she probably has stupid views on other things too.

You know, I'm not crazy about Cassie Clare, but in this case many elements sound painfully generic. Secret world in modern society fighting monsters? Fight demons using magical weapons imbued with special power? Brought in by sexy member of the opposite sex?
That's like every anime ever.

Though I do admit, there seem to be a LOT of structural similarities, at least based on Exhibit 3. So eh. Even some of the other stuff, like having their powers revealed when mother is kidnapped, or mysterious neighbor who actually Knows Stuff. That's really generic.

That's like every paranormal romance, ever.

According to the lawsuit, Kenyon “was alerted by some of her distressed fans” in 2006 about Clare’s planned publication “of a work that incorporated [Kenyon’s] Dark-Hunter Marks”

Pffft haha "distressed fans." Those weren't your fans, dear, those were just Cassie Claire's hatedom. And yeah, those reasons for suing are ridiculous. They are literally tropes, like that other person in the article said. Neither of these writers is original at all.

I'm no fan of CC but this:

Both Dark-Hunter and Shadowhunter books, it says, “are about an elite band of warriors that must protect the human world from the unseen paranormal threat that seeks to destroy humans as they go about their daily lives”.

Describes like a million books. Off the top of my head, Vicki Pettersson's Signs of the Zodiac series fits the bill.

Or Hellboy.

It also describes Agents of Shield and Torchwood...
Though, to be a little fairer, some of the similarities listed in the full report do actually build up. There are a lot of them, and I guess it's a toss-up between them both being tropey up the wazoo, and there being some genuine plagiarism here.

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