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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-13 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3328 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm 'eh' about Omegaverse in general, but I do find it a bit eyeroll-worthy when fans of western live action fandoms talk about how their slash fics are so much better than yaoi fics for anime fandoms because anime fans adhere to the traditional seme/uke dynamics and oh how much better us live action fans are...and then those same live action fans squeal all over omegaverse fics which are basically 'traditional seme/uke dynamics *because genetics."'

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
....the Japanese fandom is into Omegaverse stuff too though lmfao. So is the Chinese fandom! I own some Chinese Steve/Bucky doujinshi (I'm not even in the fandom, I just love this one doujinshi author and collect all her work no matter what fandom), and her last three doujinshi have been A/B/O. I also own a bunch of Levi/Eren and Eren/Levi A/B/O doujinshi.

However, I still kind of get the superiority thing, not gonna lie. If you compare Japanese fandom, and Western fandom, Western fandom is ten million times better at portraying two guys who can actually have a verse/verse relationship, instead of pretending that one guy's cock is like magnetically opposed to entering the other dude's butthole. Not to mention the justification for it in Japanese fandom is super squicky. Tons of "I just want to be ~the wife~, but I can't, because we're two men, so this is the best I can do *lays back and spreads his boy pussy*", and "But he's so ~masculine~, I could never imagine him letting anyone fuck him, I guess it's up to me to be the bitch bottom!"

If Japan were better about understanding that top/bottom dynamics, when they do happen, aren't so much about who is the "man" and who is the "woman", it's about who likes which sensations best in sex, I would defend it more, but it doesn't. I will say that there are some doujinshi authors who get it. I own all the doujinshi from this one artist because she draws almost nothing but Levi/Eren(Eren/Levi) doujinshi where they switch. It's amazingly hot. Then there are a couple doujin artists that draw Makoto and Haru as a couple who are totally okay with switching. There's one doujinshi floating around where Makoto tries to fuck Haru, but his dick is too big and since they haven't really prepared all that well Haru can't take it, and they're both like "welp I guess this isn't happening" and lying back secretly wanting to still have sex, and then they confess that they're both still really horny and want to do it, and Makoto tentatively pipes up and says "I mean, if you wanted, you could...do me?" Within the context of that couple Makoto's "ugh my body is so big and masculine it must be gross to fuck me" insecurities actually work pretty well, even though it's a trope I'd eyeroll the hell out of in other situations. And of course Haru thinks he's the hottest thing since forever so there is that too. :P


TL;DR: I agree with you for the most part, but Japan is still really gross in general about seme/uke dynamics so I get why people say what they say. (Oh, and Japanese (and Chinese) fandom are into A/B/O stuff too and I have the doujinshis to prove it.)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Just wanted to say thanks for this comment, I found it really interesting and informative. I know next to nothing about anime (literally, I don't even know if "anime" is still the going term), but I've always kind of got the impression that seme/uke is...similar to and yet not really the same as the sort of dom/sub and top/bottom dynamics that are common in Western fandoms. The way the two compare is something I've always wanted to understand better, and I feel like your comment shed some light on the subject. :)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-16 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, Japan. He's a shitty fanfic writer. I mean, I don't want to kink shame, but every single thing about that Japan is gross and disgusting.