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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-17 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3332 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3332 ⌋

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(David Bowie)


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(Great British Bake Off for Sports Relief, Ed Balls)


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[Pokemon]


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[Star Wars: TFA]


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[Damian Lewis, Dick Winters, Band Of Brothers]


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[Daughter of the Lilies]


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[David Eddings]


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[Sengoku Basara]


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[JJBA]


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[Men In Black I, II, III]
















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Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Collapsing this in case people don't want to converse about peen0r.

Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Has anybody else ever noticed this? Ever since I started hanging out on Reddit (I mainly sub to the trans subreddits (am trans queer lady!) the LGBT subreddits, /r/sex, and a few others), I've noticed this HUGE influx of "totally str8" dudes who really want to suck a dick, or get fucked by one, or both. There's literally like 3-5 posts a week in /r/Sex or /r/Bisexual about I notice so many of them get really unhealthy obsessions with trans women because they glorify dick on a pedestal and I've literally seen them admit trans women are "female enough that they don't feel gay about it", but the reality of the situation is that it's honestly all about the penis, and the more desperate? casual of them will get repeatedly fucked by dudes or suck guys off all the while claiming they're "totes str8" and stuff. Why do you think this is? I was harassed by guys on OKcupid because I'm non-op and I pass (they can see by my photos that I'm passing, and I have 'non-op' in my profile to alert potential new friends/lovers that I'm really not likely to be getting my business changed for a loooong time, if ever. (And I like using it on fellow ladies. :X)) I finally figured out how to filter a good chunk of chasers out by selecting the option not to be seen by straight men, but eh, it wasn't perfect. They harassed me even after I let them know that I'm only really looking for other women (which it states right in my profile, the only reason I don't turn off the "guy" option is because I'm also open to dating trans men right now) and I've heard some positively horrendous entitlement. (Apparently the only people that will ever willingly date me are transsexual obsessed cis guys! Imagine that, I say, as my girlfriend naps on the couch next to me!)

Why are guys so obsessed with penis. How come I haven't seen even one comparative post of a girl going "you know, I'm totally straight but I just really want to plant my face into some pussy right now". In fact, I usually see the opposite, women talking about how "disgusting" vaginas are. Is this internalized misogyny? A phallocentric society? Both? Why does everyone act like penises are the amazing genital? I'll be honest, while I'm okay with my own, and I've played around with others, generally I prefer my relationships to be one penis only (but I don't discriminate based on genitals, because for me personally I think that's kinda dumb since I don't have any active aversion to them or anything) and I don't see what the huge deal is about dicks! Has anybody delved into this before at all?

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is a cultural thing maybe? You also don't see lesbians grossed out about penises quite as much as you see gay men grossed out by vaginas. It really seems like vaginas are gross to a lot of people unless they are attracted to them.

On the other hand, penises are also often treated as a joke and as something unattractive and purely functional. I've legitimately heard straight women with no interest in other women whatsoever say the female form is meant to be aesthetically pleasing and the male form was designed for function.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, despite the stereotype of the "man-hating lesbian," there are way more gay men who seem to personally dislike, or be grossed out by women than lesbians who seem to have issues with men. I don't think I've actually met a lesbian who's expressed a dislike of men in general, though I'm sure there must be some around.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I have, but they were almost universally young and wore stupid dyed haircuts and posted on either Livejournal or tumblr, depending on when I met them.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that you should maybe put as much stock into how "real" posts on reddit are as you put into how "real" Dear Penthouse Forum letters are.

Or the infinitesimal percentage of people who use OKCupid.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, it makes me feel like not having one makes me an inferior sex partner (as well as "stuck" in a role I don't like, unless I use toys...).

Maybe it's just the taboo, for some of them?

The ones who fuck men might be bi, but unwilling to accept it (to be clear, I don't think this about guys who are attracted to trans women but not men).

The entitlement is pretty common to straight guys. They want you, you should belong to them!!! And if you don't want to, then you're horribly unattractive (REALLY, they only just hit on you out of pity!) and no one else will want you.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
It might be that blowjobs are in general more common in porn than eating pussy is? Gay porn has blowjobs, het porn has blowjobs, lesbian porn has girls sucking strap-ons, the idea of blowjobs is more common and sexualized than cunnilingus in terms of sheer numbers.

And a lot of the lesbian oral sex videos are aimed toward het men, so women aren't targeted with that as much.

I've never heard either gender say "I really wanna rim someone" either.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
^ But I bet if rimming suddenly became the new explosively popular thing in porn and was made out to be the most amazing thing ever, lots of people who have no idea what it's really like would hop on the bandwagon of wanting to try.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
RE Rimming: Really? I hear that a lot. Maybe just because I travel in queer circles, but even straight dudes have confessed this around me. One friend was terrified his GF would think he was a 'freak' because he wanted to eat her ass.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
straight guys can't be really be gay

like straight girls can complement each other on how they look and even get a little touchy feel without anyone suspecting they're gay

but if a straight dude does any of that outside of sports he probably likes it up the ass

it's maybe a closetedness and a want of the forbidden or some shit

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Like... I think that is something that exists, but it also feels VERY separate from the thing of "I'm very straight but also completely obsessed with big dicks and getting fucked by them". Which definitely exists. My guess is, just an expression of bisexuality or homosexuality for people who don't want to admit it, but I definitely think OP is onto something.

Re: Phallcentric society?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-18 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hoo boy.

I guarantee you there are hundreds (maybe thousands) of essays floating around on this very topic. They probably have some length points about social norms and whatnot. They're probably pretty easy to look up on google scholar if you're really interested.

I personally have no notion of any genitals being superior (being a secure bisexual man), but in my experience it boils down to three scenarios:

1. Male genital preoccupation influencing sexual fantasy. These guys are either insecure or obsessed, and they fixate so much that they can't separate their thoughts from what they assume is sexual attraction.

2. Men being in denial about being gay or bisexual because of religious or parental influence. "I'm STRAIGHT, but..."

3. Trans fetishism. Just your garden variety chasers, who get off on something they see as exotic or taboo. Has very little to do with penises or penis worship and more to do with othering trans people.

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you for the most part but I do want to disagree on number 3. It has absolutely everything to do with dicks, because trans men are no objectified and fetishized the same way at all. They are fetishized in some insular circles but there is no widespread fetishization like there is with trans women. You have to dig pretty far to find a guy or girl "into" trans men, but you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who has the hots for "chick with dick" (even the derogatory names basically hint at what people are after).

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Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
dunno but i do know i want to visit icelandic phallological museum
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

Re: Phallcentric society?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-02-18 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen even one comparative post of a girl going "you know, I'm totally straight but I just really want to plant my face into some pussy right now".

It's reddit. It's 74% male. There's a lot less posts from girls in the first place. There are straight girls out there with the attitude you've described, but whether they're in numbers comparative with males with that attitude, you're not going to find the answer by looking at a site like Reddit or Pinterest, where the gender makeup is skewed out of proportion.
Edited 2016-02-18 00:42 (UTC)

Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you implying Pinterest is overproportionally...male? Or female?

Second, I do think OP is on to something though. I've basically never seen women profess this sort of thing. If anything it's more like "oh women are so pretty, boobs are so nice...ewww vagina I barely want to touch my OWN much less someone else's", so I do think dicks are put on a pedestal.

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Re: Phallcentric society?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're getting an unrepresentative sample of "straight" men. Seriously.

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
How about dog dicks?

Did you know, according to a "hot woman dying of cancer," that loads of women fuck their dogs? That's why you see so many women out walking dogs, if you were ever confused as to why a group or people that comprises slightly more than half the population is often seen in the company of the most popular type of pet.

http://www.returnofkings.com/78898/9-secrets-about-female-nature-told-by-a-hot-girl-dying-of-cancer

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
RoK? Well I've found the scumbag!

Seriously, I hope you die slowly of prostate cancer.

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
What about that comment makes you think OP agrees with the article when they are quite clearly taking the piss out of it?

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I am 99.9999% sure the OP of this is being sarcastic.

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Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Lmao omfg

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-02-18 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I saw a horse pissing.

Re: Talk about (literal) dicks and society!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
lmao I love how transparently obvious it is that a guy wrote this