[ SECRET POST #3364 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3364 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Glass Scientists]


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03.
[Ghostbusters remake]


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04.
[All for One Webseries]


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05.
[Castle]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[Reign of Fire]


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08.
[Steven Universe]


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09.
[K. Tempest Bradford]


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10.
[Against the Wall]


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11.
[Queer Literature, "In the Company of Shadows"]


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12.
(Star Wars Rebels)


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13.
[Jeeves and Wooster, P.G. Wodehouse]


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14.
[Giles Coren]


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15.
[James Marsters/Rick Grimes of The Walking Dead]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 086 secrets from Secret Submission Post #481.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

After seeing the trailer, I am pretty meh about this. I like the cast (or at least the actresses I know) and I like the work the director has done with said actresses. I even like how cartoony the ghosts look.

But, I don't know WHY they decided a remake was the way to go. Having them be a different Ghostbusters group (maybe in a different city) would have made more sense and ruffled less feathers.

And I don't like how they've made the one black character a black stereotype ("Oh hell naw" REALLY?).

[(Anonymous)]

She's not a stereotype. She's playing the everyman (woman) character that Ernie Hudson played in the originals. (At least that's what came over in the trailer/press.)

[(Anonymous)]

You can be an everyman without being a racial stereotype.

[(Anonymous)]

Stereotypes are what they are because they're a generalization. Without actually viewing the film it's impossible to say if your criticism is valid or if she's playing an average urban black New Yorker.

[(Anonymous)]

I guarantee you're white.

inb4 "Nice try but I'm actually [insert applicable non-white race here]"

[(Anonymous)]

Spin the wheel and try again, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

Shouldn't ever make guarantees when trying to judge text on the internet, nonny. Nice try at covering your ass there, tho.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the original was also a racial stereotype, at least by modern standards -- the only non-scientist, just in it for a job, etc. They seem to be making an extremely faithful, just gender-swapped, remake. I think it would probably be improved if they'd done something here to remove Unfortunate Implications, but the problem is something transferred from the original rather than introduced.

...For whatever that's worth.

[(Anonymous)]

What unfortunate implication is that? That ma man of modest means and education, whatever his race, might be glad of a less than mundane albeit, still blue collar job?

Should black or other ethnic characters only play highly educated and affluent characters now? Even if this doesn't mirror reality? Only a few percent of people of any color including white are particularly rich or highly educated. Should the majority be erased from film in the name of preventing some perceived offense?

[(Anonymous)]

But the thing is that they don't GET to play highly educated people ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Not true. I don't watch a lot of tv, but of the shows I am watching minority characters are well represented playing business people, high ranking government officials, and other people of influence. Unless your tv is set to 1950, your very wrong in your statement.

[(Anonymous)]

You are living some kind of parallel universe if you think that representation for racial and ethnic minorities is in any way shape or form fair. Just because it's not the 1950s any more doesn't make the representation in film or tv (which is doing better than film) good or even adequate.

[diet_poison]

So is this the movie to take that particular stand in?* Or will it help to fix that problem by never casting minority actors in blue-collar-esque roles? Because I guarantee that would cause a whole 'nother kind of outrage (and one I'd actually agree with).

*asking honestly because I'm not terribly familiar with Ghostbusters and I don't know if there are any highly-educated/rich characters of any import in that movie, though I definitely get the sense that making one of the characters pictured here rich or highly educated would be out of character

[(Anonymous)]

All three of the other people are highly educated (that is the point). They could have EASILY made one of the white women the "uneducated, everyman.

[luxshine]

I remember reading that Patty (the everywoman character) was originally written for Melissa McCarthy (making the character white in the scriptwriters mind) before they decided to switch them due to Patty being like "Every other Melissa McCArthy's role".

Also, that Patty IS highly educated, just with a shitty job. (She has a doctorate or masters in History, IIRC)

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think there's been any confirmation that Patty has a doctorate in history. If anything, I think the poster(?) that refers to her as a New York "historian" is making a joke about her street smarts.

[diet_poison]

ah, ok. thanks for the clarification, anon :)

[(Anonymous)]

Or if they do, their background has to be one of hardships, maybe with an added "escaped-from-*insert cliché* unlike the rest of their family".

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, and Ernie Hudson was not happy with it, as is widely written. It's not an upgrade, this new character. :\

[(Anonymous)]

I think I read Melissa McCarthy was originally supposed to play Patty. If she says stuff like "Aw hell no" and slapped people, I guess no one would care.

Is that a good thing?

[(Anonymous)]

Great, now let's wait for everyone to do like they did with Frozen and demand a boycott because of the racism, because that'll definitely show studios that we don't want racist movies, not that we don't want movies about women, because after all, people also demand boycotts of racist movies about men ALL the time... wait.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm torn between saying she's a stereotype and seeing that she's a lot like black women I know. I'm trusting Leslie Jones to walk that tightrope between good portrayal and stereotype but, most of all, I just want her to be funny.