[ SECRET POST #3368 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3368 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

TBH I'd be ok with gay/bi Luke but I'm a little put off at the wave of fans TFA brought in who are actively celebrating a woman character being erased just because she was Luke's love interest. It reeks of the early to mid 2000s' "get rid of those icky women who are in the way of my yaoi" attitude.

Like, what are these fans going to do if we find out Luke had a woman lover who isn't Mara? Hope she's dead too?

[(Anonymous)]

I for one, would start popping popcorn and eagerly await the oncoming explosion of online screaming.

I have just learned that George Lucas stopped bothering with the Internet sometime around 2000, and now I may have discovered part of the reasons why.

[philstar22]

The way the fandom treats Lucas is shameful. Even if you don't like the prequels, he gave you Star Wars in the first place. Stop being an ass to him and stop making it personal and talking as if he's a bad human for making (arguably) bad movies.

[ketita]

Agreed. Tbh, I'm kind of bummed that Disney apparently bought out his original script for movie 7, just so they could go and do their own thing.
Flawed as the prequels might have been, they were still Lucas' artistic vision. I didn't really feel like TFA had much vision at all :/

[(Anonymous)]

I think that TFA's vision was "Let's make a movie that's actually enjoyable to watch and features protagonists that are likable enough so that if we have them fight over a pit of lava, the audience won't be cheering for the lava to win." It's a stark departure from Lucas's vision for the prequels, to be sure, but it seems to have gone over fairly well with the general public.

Besides, it's kind of hard to top the ridiculous pseudoscience, unbelievable dialogue, endless political debates and racism of the prequels when the GOP primaries are right there.

[ketita]

Haha, A+ comment!
Though I will say personally, after seeing 7 - I sort of liked the prequels better. At least there I was interested in finding out what the story was, and I liked Qui-Gon and young Obi-Wan, and even Anakin was cute. While it's true I haven't been inclined to rewatch them, I have very little inclination to rewatch TFA either. I wish TFA had been a movie I was interested in, and I'm glad Star Wars is on the map again, but...

Guess I'll be sticking to the original trilogy.

[(Anonymous)]

You realize he actively went out of his way to prevent gay fanfiction from being written and that there were lawsuits about it, right?

[philstar22]

Wait, what, no, I had no idea. All I knew was that some fans took it personally that he made movies they didn't like and went out of their way to attack him personally that. I hate that for the same reason that personal attacks on Rowling was one of the things that soured me to the Harry Potter fandom. But ugh, no, I did not know he did that, I'm going to have to google tomorrow and find some links because that is gross.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT, but I don't believe the other anon is correct. IIRC, it was a Han/Leia story called "Slow Boat to Bespin" that prompted the Lucasfilm crackdown at the time, not slash per se. The crackdown was regarding any explicit sex, anything that could be seen as pornographic.

Here's a link for you: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Star_Wars_Zine_Publishers_by_Maureen_Garrett

I don't think any lawsuits ever materialized, but I haven't read through the entire page above. I just remember the kerfuffle from "back in the day".

Yes, I'm old. I still have zines!

[(Anonymous)]

They (Lucas and co.) deemed slash, regardless of how PG-rated it was, as "explicit" by virtue of being slash, which is pretty disgusting. Also a rather large contrast to Gene Roddenberry's otherwise encouraging approach towards slash at roughly around the same time period.

[(Anonymous)]

"Slow Boat to Bespin" was PG-13 at worst, so it wasn't anything that could be classified as hard-core porn. I'm not saying that Lucasfilm may not have had an eye on Star Trek's K/S and thinking that they didn't want that slash movement happening in Star Wars - that was probably a factor - but I don't think any of the evidence supports the narrative that they were specifically going after slash. Slash was dumped in the "porn" bin along with het.

And yes, definitely do compare and contrast with Gene Roddenberry's take on it - the two fandoms had diametrically opposed approaches to dealing with their fans. Interesting from a fandom history perspective, but it didn't really change things.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, he wouldn't allow Carrie Fisher to wear a bra with her iconic white gown because "there's no gravity/underwear in space".

The man is a creep.

[philstar22]

That's gross too. Still not why I've heard fans attack him though. Fans attack him for making movies they don't like as if it was a personal attack on them and he ruined their lives by having a different vision of Star Wars than they did.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, your comment is old by this point but thought we'd just weigh in. It's not because he was a pervert. Lucas didn't want sexuality in Star Wars. There's a rumor (that's likely true) he wanted her to tape down her breasts so they wouldn't jiggle, and in addition he didn't want her to wear that slave uniform. Carrie Fisher was the one who demanded it because she was angry they weren't making her sexy enough. Don't go taking a lot of what people say about Lucas seriously. He's not an asshole, but he's not the best guy other their either. But a creepy pervert is far from the list.