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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-27 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3371 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3371 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda agree, it is a zero tolerance situation. He 100% has to keep on his meds no matter what distractions are going. The way Snape went about it is kinda an assholish way though. To be honest though, he shoulda disclosed it at start of term and had a mandatory "so you're about to be mauled by a werewolf: here's how to avoid infection and death" class right at the start of term for all years, just for Health and Safety. He shouldn't be fired just for being a Werewolf, but for not taking his meds.

Snape did behave like a snide asshole though, but since Dumbledore is basically signing off on everything Snape does and protecting him, the blame has to go to Dumbledore ultimately.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like a reasonable solution would have been to have his meds kept in the infirmary, and have him check in so that they can make DAMN SURE that he is staying on his meds.

Having him there as an open werewolf would have made things manageable.
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[personal profile] ketita 2016-03-27 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This would have been so much smarter than what was actually going on.

Even if they kept it secret, having him do a monthly check-in should still have been mandatory.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2016-03-27 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, since Snape was making the potion for him and hand delivering it to him that sort of was their check-in policy - it's how he knew something was up during the finale, he went to take Lupin his potion and he wasn't there.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry Potter and the One Book Where Snape Is Fucking Normal For A Change.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2016-03-27 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
He didn't even fuck with Lupin's potion out of some petty revenge! Quite the departure from usual.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst he did was shift up a lesson plan when he was subbing at short notice. That evil mastermind.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, that completely coincidental shift in lesson plans.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It was petty, but it is not abnormal for substitute teachers to dick with lesson plans for no good reason. And it was something that they were going to get to anyway, so the material was still getting covered. Still the most normal thing that Snape has ever done as a teacher.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
The method of teaching it would have been vastly different (most likely more humanely and sympathetically) if the class had gotten to it with Lupin as opposed to Snape. Meanwhile Snape just taught it without getting the students to question what the text told them.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well of course Lupin would be biased given that he himself is a werewolf.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and letting people who actually experience the condition be the ones to teach about it in a way that doesn't encourage othering and dehumanizing ... nuts, right?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Dehumanizing? He turns into a fucking wolf.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-30 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
lollll

as usual, trying to equate a fantastical fictional ALLEGORY 100% with real-world issues fails completely.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
but since Dumbledore is basically signing off on everything Snape does and protecting him, the blame has to go to Dumbledore ultimately.

I don't really follow this line of reasoning. Yeah it's shitty that Dumbledore keeps Snape at the school regardless of his behaviour toward students and other faculty members. So I guess in the sense that Snape was even at Hogwarts at all to out Lupin, Dumbledore can be held at fault, but why would the ultimate blame sit more heavily on him than on the guy actually treating everyone like shit?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-27 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it is the boss's job to carry the can for their subordinate's misdeeds, especially if they've been actively looking the other way for them and letting stuff slide constantly. You fuck up big time at work and your boss is going to get called to their boss's office to explain why they let you do it. Even if you don't get canned, there is a chance your boss might get canned for it. That is why they get to be the boss in the first place, because it is assumed that they are able to prevent any fucking up or acting out before it becomes a problem.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Your boss would get canned, but so would you is the point I think I'm making. If a teacher was raising serious complaints among the students and faculty, the school's principal (and possibly the school board) would obviously get in trouble for having hired that teacher, but the teacher is the one likely to suffer most.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
DA

These days most professional workplaces have a 3 strike type rule barring outright illegal behaviour (versus morally dubious i.e. outing a fellow teacher). You have to bring up the behaviour with the person misbehaving and set them on a plan to fix it - you can't just kick them out without making them aware of their issues (yes even if it's really obvious like being a bullying asshole).

Granted HP is set a little further in the past so while you have the pros of being able to kick people out outright without reason, you have the cons where they're also kept outright without reason.


All that said, I did once read a great fic where they realised they'd been letting Snape slide too much and set up a performance plan, behaviour plan, counselling sessions etc etc. Don't remember how it ended but it was cathartic to read.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-03-28 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. But I will always, always love the moment when Lupin-as-were moves to attack the kids and Snape's first, instinctive move is to *spread his arms* and protect the kids. He makes himself the bigger target, he gets in front of them and he pushes back, so they are forced to move away from the danger.

It doesn't 'redeem' him being a jackass, but i *love* it so much.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-28 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Too bad that moment only exists in the movies.