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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-12 06:51 pm

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Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

[personal profile] sarillia 2016-04-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Capslock!Harry in OotP. I wouldn't handle the situation he was in very well either. I'm pretty sure I yelled at friends for much pettier reasons at that age.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-12 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry gets criticized a lot for that book, but honestly, it struck me as fairly typical behavior for a 15-year-old, especially one who was going through a lot of real shit. *shrug*
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Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

[personal profile] morieris 2016-04-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. Like that's some tough stuff to deal with.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-12 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
See I agree with this.

People forget that Harry had to deal with a lot of the shit he dealt with alone. He didn't like to open up with people and trouble them with his personal woes and learned from a young age that he had to deal with things alone. The Dursleys sure as hell wouldn't help.

He dealt with a lot of trauma, like watching a classmate die, and he never got any help with possible PTSD. Not to mention as a young child his only adult example or father figure for as long as he could actually remember was Vernon Dursley. I don't think Vernon was a poster boy for good anger management skills, and considered it a good day if he got to yell at people. Until he was eleven at least.

Harry pulled through and made it through the skin of his teeth sometimes. It's impossible and unrealistic to expect him to always be able to manage his anger in constructive healthy ways as he never really learned how.

In the abusive household he grew up in he was suppressing it all the time, and watched his uncle go around yelling , blustering at and bullying people for ten years, and his aunt enabled all his uncle and cousins behavior. She probably took out her own aggression and anger on Harry himself.
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Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

[personal profile] a_potato 2016-04-12 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

I think Harry's characterization in OotP makes sense: he's a teenager; his parents were murdered, and their murderer is after him, and he's expected to defeat said murderer, and said murderer has already made multiple attempts on his life; the people who raised him were abusive; no one will tell him what's going on; and he's seen people die. If anything, he's handling things remarkably well.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Capslock!Harry wasn't anywhere as difficult a teenager as my little sister, and she DIDN'T have a genocidal evil overlord after her life.

Also, I was around Harry's age when OotP first came out, and I'm absolutely certain that the grand majority of my peers were acting way more immature than Harry ever did.
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Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2016-04-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Throwing in on the agreement, here.
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Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-04-13 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Completely agree.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-13 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. Capslock!Harry's actually a pretty damn realistic depiction of a 15 year old in mourning and living in a shitty situation.

The problem I have is when people assume that his behavior being understandable makes reading about it enjoyable - the number of people who assume if you didn't like OotP it's because you think Harry's unreasonably whiny in it drives me up the wall.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-13 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
YMMV. I felt like it made him more real. At first he seemed a little too Pure Goodhearted Hero. In book 3 and 4 he was starting to move out of that, but 5 made him feel like a real teenager.

Re: Characters You Hate Seeing Being Called "Whiny"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-13 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

...That is pretty much exactly what I said, anon.

I found book 5 Harry realistic. I just did not enjoy reading from his PoV.