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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-14 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3389 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3389 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I basically agree. I'm okay with Mary Sues and self inserts in general, that's fine, it's fantasy. But first person Reader fic too often has zero characterization. It's lazy. Choose Your Own Adventure books have more character depth than some of these.

Yes, there are exceptions, and in the end it's still down to 'write what makes you happy.' But Reader still hits me wrong.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
They are just fap fantasies, you're expecting too much of them.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. Another reason I don't read 'em, but I don't go around bitching too hard, either.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about characterization and I don't see why that has to be the sole measure of quality. If characterization is not necessary to fulfill its function why does it matter

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
A story with a blank paper insert as nominal lead isn't a fucking story.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Why not

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
No attachments to the character means any drama fall flat. At best, most of the better examples are just raw porn scenarios. Fine, they're that. But they're not stories; there's no value to any rising action, nothing to really attach to a sense of victory. Identity is necessary for attachment.

At least they gave Bella Swan a name, you know?

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Even assuming that character attachment is necessary for drama - which I by no means agree with! - why can't it be that the familiar non-original characters play that role? I mean it seems to me that centering the story on those characters is one of the basic reasons behind this type of fic.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
There is absolutely no emotional connection since you are literally just (your name here) insert with a fictional character. It's not even meant for YOU specifically, it's everyone who reads it. You are not on the same plane of existence. It just feels so cheap and there has never been a good x reader fanfiction. There is a good reason they never make fandom rec lists.

Honestly, it just reminds me of all the crazy young fangirls of One Direction, Justin Bieber, or any celebrity who hate on their actual girlfriends and try to edit their pictures over them.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I can't see how anyone can actually ship themselves with a character. I can only ship characters that have an actual basis together or are on the same plane of existence.

I really hate when people ship themselves with a character and edit other peoples are to put them in the image. Just stop. That is why I stop posting my art on tumblr.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-14 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The shipping is just...wishful thinking? I get that editing the images is annoying and creepy, but ou're reading too much into a fantasy, I think.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But fantasizing about characters/people you like fucking you is pretty common.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I ship myself with you anon ;)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I mean yeah, I have fantasies about characters, but I sure as hell don't ship them with myself.