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If we got a wake up we wouldn't be putting Republicrats up for a candidate We haven't had that wake up yet, because we have yet another pro-business, pro-status quo, pro doing fuck all about income inequality candidate who ran just because she feels she ought to be president. Maybe 2020 we'll wake up and not pass through someone from the party machine. Vote Trump to make the Democrats wake up in 2020, or if you cannot bring yourself to do that either stay home or vote third party. It is time to take the long view or we'll get to the next round and it'll be another party machine member who is moving right with the overton window, again. How far does it have to slip before someone takes a stand and say we'll have to take the hit until we get candidates who stop the slide? The longer we leave it, the worse the hit will be, but the more far right we'll have become.

Yes, by all means, let's elect someone who will take away most of the country's rights, because we need to be taught a lesson at the expense of people's lives and livelihoods...

Yeah, we do. We haven't learned that lesson any other way, and we are still sliding towards surrendering important civil rights under Hillary too. It is just going more slowly. By all means, lets keep slowly boiling this frog 'cause that won't end badly either.

Can you give really specific examples of how we're "sliding towards surrendering important civil rights under Hillary"?

I'll be honest with you, your line of thinking is genuinely frightening to me.

TTIP. It is all about surrender of civil rights to corporate entities, and Hillary is a major cheerleader for it. Law and Order privacy rights are also things she will take a strong line against. She'll probably also continue her previous policy stances on black male youths, which will see more and more fed to for-profit prisons.

surrender of civil rights to corporate entities

Because Donald Trump is anything but corporate.

DA

Donald Trump is happily taking advantage of the rules the establishment has created. But he is a foolishly proud man. He thinks America is being made a laughingstock in terms of trade, and he can't stand it. I think his pride would lead him to make that a top priority.

Of course, that same foolish pride could be disastrous to foreign policy. But you'd be making a big mistake to think Trump puts money above his reputation.

And that is irrelevant to the goal of waking the democrat party machine up. In fact the more of an autocratic disaster Trump is, the sooner the wake up will be. The goal is for the Democrat party machine to stop backing candidates like him, not to stop him from doing anything.

Has the "throw a tantrum when you don't get your way so that they all feel sorry for you and let you get your way next time" method ever worked? Cause I really don't think it does.

The goal is for the Democrat party machine to stop backing candidates like him

Wait, backing who?

Also I still think this accelerationist shit is dangerous, and I don't think it will work, either.

TTIP. It is all about surrender of civil rights to corporate entities, and Hillary is a major cheerleader for it.

Citation? It looks like she's against TTIP though she's been kinda waffly on it in the past (not surprising for her).

Law and Order privacy rights are also things she will take a strong line against.

What do you mean by this and why do you think she will be against it?

She'll probably also continue her previous policy stances on black male youths, which will see more and more fed to for-profit prisons.

It's my understanding that she made a racist comment once alluding to black men (though Trump still wins the racism competition in this race hands-down) but that's not a policy stance? Who would actually shoot themselves in the foot by actually suggesting legislature based on race?

Accelerationism is a stupid philosophy for stupid people.

What a solid argument.

Has it occured to you that nobody will learn their lesson, again? That everything will be shittier and the only thing that will bet aken from it would be "I guess we shouldn't have voted for that one guy?" changing nothing about how they voted or why?

Cause that's humanity.

I agree with this in theory. But then I look at the elite establishment GOP, which is absolutely being taught a lesson by their voter base right now, and I see AYRT's point as well.

If the Democrats learn anything from Trump winning, it will most likely be that to win, they have to be more like Trump. That won't be good for anyone.

This. The Democrats are already ridiculously conservative these days compared to where they used to be. Please, please, please don't shift our country even more to the right by letting Trump win. Our country is scary enough already.

We're not conservative. We're balk at most conservative rhetoric. Progressives are just that extreme. Please just start your own party. We do not want change by illiberal means. We do not want our individuality and liberty stomped out for the sake of the greater good.

Yes, the Democrat party balks at conservative rhetoric, but not conservative actions.

Conservative actions such as...?

I hope you're not confusing Democratic politicians with their voter base. Many of us are very upset with our elected officials.

Then stop fucking voting for them. Democrats decry the right using dog whistle politics about race and free ranging uteruses in order to turn out the base, but the Democrat politicians use the same fucking whistle only tuned to "buh suprme court" or "lest werst choice" and it is the same goddamn lazy tactic. Stop falling for it. They've been playing the mildy less rightward than the Rep and supreme court seat at risk tune ever since Reagan, and it is the exact same tactic as the race and gaypedotranswhores tactic from the right. Stop fucking falling for it and refuse to vote for politicians that use it to turn out the base and you'll get politicians that do what you want rather than do as they please and scaring the voter into doing what they want.

You're preaching to the choir. I'm voting for Trump or no one at all.

We do not want our individuality and liberty stomped out for the sake of the greater good.

And yet the great rallying cry is "we know she is shit, but vote for Hillary for the greater good".

It's not about the greater good. It's about keeping the other side from winning.

Literally the definition of the greater good rallying cry.

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