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[Selena Gomez/Orlando Bloom]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist]

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[Vocaloid, Hatsune Miku]

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[The Great British Bake Off]

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[Anne of Green Gables/Anne of Avonlea]

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[Pokémon Sun and Moon]

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[iZombie]

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[Etrian Odyssey]

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And why? For as serious or petty of reasons as you want.

the steven universe fandom.

Star Wars. All of it. That's pretty much par for the course when it's a big, long-running, monolithic fandom. But SW is an exceptionally disappointing case in a variety of ways.

General Nintendo fandom, if only because I'm sick of Smash Bros stories shitting up stand-alone series tags on AO3 (I'd like to be able to read just Star Fox stories and not SSB crossovers, thanks). Not to mention how generally creepy the majority of the fanbase is, especially when it comes to the lighter, "happier" series like Animal Crossing or Mario. The Dolores Umbridge Paradox in action, everyone.

SW fandom disappoints me because of the utter lack of creativity. It's the same AUs, the same headcanons, the same Flanderizations of the characters, and there's absolutely nothing fun about any of it. It kills me.

Not wrong there. Up until just recently (after TFA), the fandom overall played it very "safe". I don't even think they were really ever supportive of things like fan art or fan fic, unless it was done by a "professional" or officially licensed artist (though now that Lucasfilm is owned by Disney, that program is probably a thing of the past IIRC). Now the fan fic section on AO3 is just... yeah.

Hell, TheForce.Net, the biggest fansite for SW, had a total ban on slash/femslash fanwork, for the better part of a decade for some inexplicable reason that was never made 100% clear (something something "~*canon*~", I guess). They only reversed their stance I think either in 2014 or 2013, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people still get cranky on the TFN forums because MUH CANON. (Not that it matters anymore, the "canon" they care about is no longer canon at all, lmao)

SW fandom is just a hot dumpster fire at this point, as far as I'm concerned.

it depresses me how many Warsies (not all of them, but a lot of them) are extremely homophobic.

No kidding. It's pretty telling that it took almost 10+ years before the biggest Star Wars fansite on the internet finally allowed slash/femslash on its forums/fic archives. And if Fanlore's accounts are any indication, The Phantom Menace brought about a huge wave of slash fandom for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, but that all was long before places like LiveJournal, Tumblr, etc. I sometimes wonder if that wave was the reason why slash was banned at TFN... I dunno.

The 'make Juhani bisexual' mods for KOTOR skeeved me out a whole lot, because she was the first known/openly queer character in the Star Wars EU. IIRC, most people only barely tolerated the two married Mandalorian dudes from Karen Traviss' Mando stories, solely because they were "canon". Now we've got a couple more queer characters, and while I think Chuck Wendig can be full of himself sometimes, he's probably not too far off the mark at calling out the homophobia in some of the reactions to his book, simply because SW fandom has a history of that kind of attitude over the years.

Oh, oh.. then there was the whole shitstorm over same-sex flirting options in the first expansion for The Old Republic; the Star Wars MMORPG (by BioWare), a few years back. The homophobia was rampant, with fans saying they didn't want "teh gay" to infect Star Wars, jumping to all kinds of conclusions that characters would suddenly want to flirt with you unprompted (even though said choices are clearly marked, which proves nobody knows basic reading comprehension anymore), etc. I wasn't into the game at the time, but I caught the backdraft via a couple friends at the time.

Turns out, the flirting options were pretty paltry (one was a female bisexual for Republic players, the other was a male only for Imperials, but he got taken out out of the story halfway through. Neither one are referred to or mentioned ever again at all after that.) and there was mined dialogue that proved s/s romances were originally supposed to be in the vanilla game, but got taken out for unknown reasons, despite the fact EA swore up and down they care about queer players. We later got legitimate SGRs in Lana, Theron, and Koth, but by that point most people just couldn't muster up enough energy to complain, lmao.

However, I remember the other shitstorms that would happen on r/swtor, where people would get super salty at the mere suggestion that some returning companions could have same-sex romance/flirt options this time around in the newest expansion. I wonder how those people felt when it became known female characters could now flirt with Kaliyo (a companion to the Imperial Agent class and a het romance option for male players in vanilla), lmao.

tl;dr: Yeah, I agree that SW fandom has a large undercurrent of homophobia. It's slowly starting to turn around after TFA... with an emphasis on slowly.

Edited 2016-05-17 20:57 (UTC)

star ocean fandom

those who liked the fourth game have no taste, I swear

MCU fandom. I didn't get into it before Civil War, never finding enough substance in the movies to make me want to seek out extra content (I mean I loved the movies, but CW ends with a lot of ...stuff, to think about), and man... it's just.... when it's not being unnecessarily hateful and accusatory, it's just plain boring.

I'm only into the MCU for Guardians of the Galaxy, and I kinda have to agree with you there. I didn't really "get" into the fandom for GOTG, but what little I encountered was one half boring (you read one post-movie Grocket fic, you've read them all IMHO) and the other half threatened to send my blood pressure through the roof, lmao.

On the bright side, I've met some really lovely and nice people through the sub-fandom for the Ravagers, so it wasn't a complete disappointment for me.

Doctor Who fandom.

It did always used to be fairly fractious and burn people out, but that was incidental and people at least tried not to be assholes deliberately. They just were by accident. Current Who fandom is using the previous rep of being argumentative and divided as a justification to be deliberately as abusive as possible. It fucking sucks.

Ranma 1/2 fandom disappointed me towards its end too. The srs biznis guys took over, treating what was a comedic farce show as if it were a serious grimdark drama. Yes, I do know that if it occurred in the "Real World" everyone would be a flaming asshole and a mental wreck, if not an outright criminal, but the whole point was that it wasn't and all those assholes were funny because the bits everyone in-universe took seriously were totally different to what we would take seriously. That was the joke.

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