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⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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In terms of the story, yes, it's a shit move. In terms of real life benefits to REAL people at least they're not casting another straight white man in the role.

I mean, what's more important , that you get a story that works, or that a Trans WoC get's a paycheck and a chance to make her real life better?

She could be cast as someone who isn't Frank. I think she'd make an awesome Magenta, TBH.

But frank is the main character. It's the best paid, the highest profile. You'd really another straight white man get's the highest paycheck and the most recognition while the Trans WoC gets sidelined as another support character?

I never said that? If they want a black gay Frank, that'd be fine, too! Just don't turn him into a woman because in this particular story, that's fucking dumb.

And Laverne Cox ain't exactly rolling pennies for gas.

She totally would make a fucking great Magenta!

it's not like Laverne Cox is in poverty though or doesn't get acting roles much

there's better movies that she could star in and changing the intention of a character is kinda lame

this tbh.

Erm, she is living in poverty. As well as living in constant fear of rape and murder. We don't treat trans black women well in this country

I 80% agree with this, but I really don't think she's living in poverty.

source please

Black trans women, yes. Laverne Cox in particular? Not so much.

Well, relative poverty compared to her straight white counterparts, yes, absolutely, but she's hardly on food stamps.

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http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/money/10-of-the-richest-transgender-people-in-the-world/?view=all

on what planet is laverne cox even remotely impoverished? I mean, I guess if you compared her to someone like Mark Zuckerberg or Oprah then sure she's kind of poor but she's not exactly roughing it

OT, Woc makes me very uncomfortable because it is only one letter and half a sound away from being a literal racist slur.

Wog?

Do you actually pronounce the word out like that? I thought it was just a written shorthand and you would say "woman of color" aloud, or in your mind when reading it

No, it's always PoC (Pock) and WoC (Wock) to me. Maybe it's not supposed to be but that's how it reads in my head.

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"of color" always sounds like "colored" to me, frankly.

Partly off topic, but I worry about what we're doing to the trans community. I worry that we might helping them to succeed to death. Like I think of all we did to push gay acceptance in the 90's and 2000's, We turned them into the cool hip thing to be shown in progressive media, and now we see gay men like Milo Yabbadabbadoo and Stephen Fry thinking they're too good to be progressive and being utter contemptible scum. I wonder if we're pushing and celebrating trans people too hard and turning them into the worst of us.

Pft, as a trans person living below the poverty line and who spent time homeless, who knows other trans people who are homeless, disowned, or pushed into sex work... I could stand to see more success pushed our way.

Seriously. Being thought as tryhard liberal scum is way, WAY better than being homeless.

I'm more worried about being fetishized as a trans person, but yeah I could stand to be treated like a little mascot if it meant I could get through a job interview without being automatically bounced as soon as the interviewer sees me.

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So, what, we have to continue oppressing trans* people, to make sure they remain appropriately leftist?

That's the stupidest, most fucked up version of accelerationaism I ever heard

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dethtoll - 2016-05-21 21:53 (UTC) - Expand

That we get a story that works. Every fucking time. If you don't have that, there is no real opportunity cause who's ever gonna cast em again? All they did was be in something shitty.

Edited 2016-05-21 23:41 (UTC)

Yeah, seconding the "bring on the POC Frank" comments, but also the "why Laverne Cox?" ones, because seeing a pretty woman as Frank just doesn't work. Maybe if they put her in, I dunno, sharp suits? But then the visuals aren't as cool. Idk.

At least they're not casting a straight white man in the role... of a straight white man?

Yeah. That makes TOTAL sense. Instead of creating new characters of all races (including white), let's erase all white men from Hollywood by shoehorning in black people into every white character we can find. That's gonna work!

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