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There are a ton I only like when the genders are reversed (either m -> f or f -> m, it doesn't matter) because the original has been done to death. I guess most notably going to save/avenge/rescue someone. The "man must save/rescue/avenge his female" has been done so goddamned fucking much I literally won't consume media that uses that trope. Which writes of a whole swath of (mostly bad) video games, I realize.

If it's a dude s/r/a-ing another dude, sure. A woman s/r/a-ing a woman, sure. But I honest to god can't think of a single game in which a woman s/r/a-s a (grown) man as the driving focus of the narrative. I mean, sure, the new Lara rescues a couple of male minor characters (and fails to save others, another all-too-common spin on this, because women saving men is emasculating, so let's have her fail! /director of Salt) but the end goal and main plot is to save another woman. Mirror's Edge? Another woman. And if a woman is "avenging" something, it's almost always either a child or another woman or her own rape/abuse (i.e. herself, a woman).

Can anyone rec anything where a grown woman s-r-a's a grown man? Preferably saves/rescues, since avenge is apparently okay after a failed rescue attempt, thanks Salt.

Do robots count? Because if I recall correctly, in an episode of G1 Transformers, Elita-One ends up saving Optimus Prime.

Not... really. More that it's an episode, rather than that it's robots. The robots are still clearly gendered, but it's more that it's not the over-arching narrative. It seems to be permissible in a episodic narrative to give female characters their chance to shine, so long as it's a one-off and the male characters end up doing it too.

I meant as a focus of the show/film/book/game, etc., as a whole.

I think maybe Dishonored 2 will have that option. It's not quite clear yet, but it looks like there will be a point early in the game where during an attack, you will have to choose which of the two MCs to play for the rest of the game. Some think that the character not chosen will die, but I'm not convinced. In any case, it would probably turn out to be either avenging or rescuing the male MC if you decide to play the female MC.

I'll believe that when I see it ;p

I did play the original Dishonored before I instituted my "no more of this trope for me, ever" rule, so I'm interested in the sequel. Emily-as-protagonist automatically means "man saves/avenges his female" is not going to be the case.

Well...spoilers - Knight and Day (2010 movie with Tom Cruz and Cameron Diaz) has her rescue him at one point, though there is a LOT of him saving her first.

I think that 2013 movie Beautiful Creatures had the lead girl save her boyfriend. I haven't seen it in awhile so I may be misremembering.

Of course there's Starwars TFA with Rey and Finn a couple times.

Pocahontas actually saves John Smith in the Disney movie.

Underworld - Selene saves Michael a lot in that movie/series.

I know there was a video game where the main character is a girl saving her brother, but I can't remember the name.

I'm not really that interested in the back-and-forth egalitarian saving, I know that's a thing. It's also not the overarching narrative of the story, whereas so many plots can be boiled down to "man is out to save/rescue/avenge (insert female of his relation)." These stories don't open with a man being kidnapped/killed and end when he is safe (whereas the reverse is nauseatingly common - fetch object quest successful!).

That's not how you'd describe Star Wars TFA or Underworld or Knight and Day.

I honestly can't think of a single example myself, which is why I was asking. I'd be very curious to hear about that video game though if you do remember it... though it doesn't really count if he's a child.

Mercedes Lackey's By The Sword (IMO her best book) has the heroine meeting her love interest by rescuing him from enemy captors.

Well that is definitely an inversion. What's the rest of the book about?

It's about mercenaries. IIRC the lady is the captain of a mercenary squad. I remember liking the book a lot when I was younger, but I haven't read it in a million years.

That music video by Brandon Flowers (from The Killers) featuring Charlize Theron? It's not a story but it's got everything you described.

And also an awesome song to go with it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AhU12zC8fc

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