[ SECRET POST #3481 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3481 ⌋

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[Red/Red 2]


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07. [SPOILERS for Oxenfree]
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Comments

"Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

One complaint I keep hearing about younger people, specifically people my own age (early twenties) is that we're spoiled and entitled because we all got trophies for participating in things.

I would guess there are a lot of people in their 20s here. Is this actually an experience people have had?

I've never gotten a trophy for anything at all, so I find this criticism kind of annoying if it's aimed at me - well, aimed at people my age, but sometimes in writing, they like to act like they're talking to YOU the individual, and they already know all about you and could practically write your biography.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[sparrow_lately]

I think I got some stickers? And I got a trophy when my whole team won a championship. All the rest of my trophies, IIRC, were for things I really did.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

To some extent.

Like, when I played on sports teams, we would always have a pizza dinner at the end of the year and we would all get some kind of trophy or medal regardless of how the team had done.

On the other hand, the idea that this bred a sense of entitlement is ridiculous. Like, if you're a kid, you fucking know whether or not your teams were bad. I didn't think I deserved success because I was on the worst basketball team at my school (we had an A team for the best players, a B team for the decent players, and a C team for the unathletic putzes; I was always on the C team) and we won 2 games all year. I knew that I sucked.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to post what you did. Thinking that a participation sticker made kids feel like they were valuable and important is way underestimating the intelligence of kids. We all knew getting a participation sticker without winning top three or whatever got "real" awards meant you were a loser being pitied by the adults. Adults who thought this made anyone feel better or self important were pretty dumb.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[morieris]

Exactly. C'mon, children aren't stupid, we knew that a participation trophy was "Thanks for showing up" not "You accomplished something AMAZING."

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[sparrow_lately]

I think I had something similar but it might be more like a keepsake than a trophy?

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

Once at a church picnic I got one of those cheap-ass puns that can writs in several different colors of ink, that they handed out to the kids who played some mildly competitive game. My dad pointed out to me that it was given, not won, because everyone got one, and I was like "oh okay." That's the closest I've ever come (I'm 28) to getting a participation trophy.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

No one I knew, myself included, ever got participation trophies. but we lived in a poor, rural area so maybe that's a reason why? I agree though, I find that complaint annoying to hear for the same reason.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

Everyone is my T-Ball and parent-pitch teams got trophies at the end of the season. I was like 6-7 at the time. I don't really think of this as a bad thing. It didn't make me feel spoiled and entitled.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know what made millennials so entitled and such perpetual victims, but I don't think it was participation trophies. I think it has more to do with their parents and teachers acting like they were innocent, fragile little glass angels, wanting to protect them from everything, insisting their child is always right, etc.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[nonnymouscawitz]

We got participation ribbons in elementary school, but we were all well aware that they were just that, and people got made fun of. It hardly made us all feel special.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

We all got "well done" stickers at my school. Of course we didn't have competitive sports. The philosophy was that you can have competitive sports or you can have keep fit activities, and since the aim behind PE classes was to keep everyone fit and healthy then we were allowed to individually choose whatever keep fit activity we wanted but score keeping was not allowed in order to prevent cliques and bullying. It worked, pretty much everyone was in good shape all the way to graduation. It caused a few parents brains to meltdown though, they just could not conceive of PE without competitive sports or of having the aim of keeping fit through enjoyment instead of forcing everyone to play a game whether we liked it or not even if it was counterproductive to the aim of fitness and enjoyment.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I got a participation ribbon for every science fair in elementary and middle school. I hated those ribbons because it meant I didn't win and I really wanted to win. It would've been better if I hadn't gotten anything. I did get a trophy once, but it was an academic one that I earned, not a participation one.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[shortysc22]

I got participation trophies all the time as a kid. But young child, like 5-8 years old.

But again, in little kid soccer, there's no winners or losers, they're just trying to teach you how to kick the ball.

As you got older you learned who was talented and who wasn't, but I don't think it was a big deal. I think the entitlement is more to deal with helicopter parenting than participation trophies.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

My soccer team got trophies for participation and we lost every single one of our games. I definitely didn't think I was awesome just for getting a trophy, because it didn't mean anything to me when we lost every single game. It just seemed like a sad attempt to make us feel better about how much we sucked. So I don't buy that complaint even for people who did get participation trophies.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I would much rather have all kids get participation prizes for sports... than teach kids to take sports seriously. It's just a game for god's sake.

Obviously learning how to accept failure and move on is important, but I fail to see how this is actually something kids don't experience. I think the "millennials are entitled" crap is all talk without actual hard evidence.

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[nightscale]

Nope, if I didn't get into the top three places I didn't get anything. I did get told that it was about having fun rather than winning though.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[ariakas]

I'm in my early 30s and I got participation trophies. I also got trophies for actually winning shit. I always knew the difference, even when I was like four or five years old. People underestimate the intelligence of kids; if everyone in the class gets a gold star no matter what, you know gold stars are worthless. If only one kid gets one, they're worth something.

The reality that old geezers whinging about millennials don't like to admit is that it's actually much harder to win competitions and get into good schools now than it was in their day. The playing fields are much wider and more diverse, scores - both test scores and mean IQ scores - have gone up, and there's a larger pool of competitors for spots that haven't grown accordingly in number. These are facts. It's also a fact that previous generations had tuition that was an order of magnitude cheaper, and more jobs per applicant available to them when they graduated.

Rather than admit they fucked up the economic situation for their own children, that they had it comparatively easier when they were the same age, and that millennials have salient points about their present economic and social situations, it's easier and more palatable to the ego to write them of as a bunch of lazy entitled whiners. (By whining lazily about them and feeling entitled to generous advantages their children have never had and will never have.)

But you know, one millennial said something I didn't like on Tumblr one time, so none of that counts they suck forever special snowflakes abloobloobloo

OP of #7

[(Anonymous)]

I got a ton of participation trophies in early grades, but few by 5th and 6th grade. They were gone by high school.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I remember being pissed about this in elementary school actually. My school did a science fair for the 4th, 5th and 6th graders. When I was in 4th and 5th grade, everyone got scored on their projects and you got ribbons depending on what your score was (like say 91-100 got blue ribbons, 81-90 got red, etc.). 6th grade they changed it to everyone getting the same ribbon for participating. Meanwhile we had a grade-wide volleyball tournament between the classes and yup, colored ribbons for those. Basically as a smart but unathletic child it pissed me off that apparently we had to spare the sad feelings of the stupid but athletic kids who did shit all for their projects but still wanted a ribbon, but heaven forbid we not give them their due rewards for being able to play sports.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I'm 41, and I guess the trophies I got in AYSO were "participation trophies" but y'know, if a kid shows up consistently for practices and games, I kinda feel like they've earned a few bucks worth of gold-painted plastic and fake wood.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

That shit didn't start until I was out of the kiddie age of school. (And believe me in my shitty rural area it did make the younger snots VERY FUCKING ENTITLED. I know it's not the same in the cities but damn.)

Back in my day we EARNED our trophies and we damn well enjoyed it even if we got a pithy third place one. *dangles my "third place, math" trophy from quiz bowl. I EARNED THIRD PLACE OUT OF ABOUT THIRTY KIDS FOR THIS*

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[dancingmouse]

I don't mind giving a little something to kids for participating. At least that encouraging them to at least get out there and do something.

An entire trophy though just encourages the whole "something for nothing" mentality that's plaguing today's society. It doesn't CAUSE entitlement, but it doesn't exactly discourage it either.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really understand this concept. It seems to be an American phenomenon, but from what I can tell, Americans are competitive about everything. In the country I grew up in, kids were only taught to be competitive about academics.

Re: "Trophy for participation"

[(Anonymous)]

I've never gotten a participation trophy, but they always gave everyone a participant green ribbon for things like science fairs and art shows. but children aren't idiots, we knew first place was better than second and any place was better than participation. every time an older person complains about millennials it's the same old shit every older generation has pinned on the younger generations.