[ SECRET POST #3508 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3508 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pokémon Adventures]


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[The West Wing]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

MCU fans are just as annoyingly smug for having a bunch of mediocre movies outside of Iron Man 1, Winter Soldier, GOTG, and Ant-Man.

Team no one TBH.

[morieris]

^

[(Anonymous)]

MCU fans have a right to be smug. Even their most mediocre movie is better than the DCU's best movie. It's hilarious.

[(Anonymous)]

Iron Man 2. Incredible Hulk. AOU.

The marvel denial is strong with this one.

[(Anonymous)]

The lowest MCU movie is Thor: The Dark World at 66%.

The highest DCU movie is Man of Steel at 55%.

Try again?

[(Anonymous)]

Not talking on critics level considering AOU got an undeservingly high score with a massive amount of continuity and out of character issues. Iron Man 2 is an embarrassment and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who likes that especially given everyone would prefer that movie didn't exist.

And no one ever talks about the hulk movie period.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you also think critics are being paid by Marvel to give DC movies bad reviews?

[(Anonymous)]

I like IM2, mostly because I'm a huge Black Widow fan. Pepper and Rhodey are pretty great, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, does Nolan trilogy not count for a DC movie anymore? That blows anything Marvel out of the water for years.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but Marvel fans can't cope with the idea that Nolan and burton batman movies were good so they forget they exist/call them overrated trash to bolster their arguments even though the average marvel movie is about as cheesy as the old superman movies.

[(Anonymous)]

Iron Man 2 is the only superhero movie I've ever given up on halfway through.

[iggy]

I like IM2 a lot. I don't consider it one of the worst MCU films.

Anyway, those movies aren't good, but compared to BVS and Suicide Squad, they're pretty darn solid.

I'm not of the belief that MCU is awesome. It's a mess in so many ways, especially behind the scenes, but DC is off to a disastrous start as far as the quality of the films goes.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing MCU will every top Dark Knight trilogy. Unless you just have to have that marvel brand comedy that panders to teenage boys.

Still though... Iron Man is hands down my favorite Marvel hero (looking forward to the new Spiderman films too) but even though Iron Man films are a huge part of why MCU is successful he is so hated amongst the Marvel fancunts who do nothing but flick their bean to Stucky porn all day while frothing at the mouth at Sharon. Captain America fans are the big reason I hate dabbling in the MCU fandom. Every other Marvel hero fandom is okay, but who gives a fuck about Ant Man really.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard to top a film such as The Dark Knight, but there's some argument that Batman Begins is better than the good Marvel films. It's good in some parts but for the most part I thought it was kind of meh. As for The Dark Knight Rises, I didn't like it. I knew it couldn't live up to being as good as/better than The Dark Knight, but it surprised me in that I ended up not liking the film very much at all.

I think both DC and Marvel have made some spectacular films but it frustrates me when they make not very good films. Like, I know they are both capable of making good superhero films, so why do they end up making stupid decisions? Both of them!

[(Anonymous)]

The second Batman movie was good.

The first one was okay. The third one was among the biggest piece of shit superhero movies I've ever seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Numbers-wise, I think Marvel has done better which is all that matters, but one thing that confuses me now is the constant "DC movies are so dark" jibe, because Marvel movies (and the TV shows, especially Daredevil) are starting to match in tone.

[(Anonymous)]

Because stat wise they have more movies. DCU has three. While it's bad that all three have been bad to middling at best, MCU only had 1 good phase 1 movie and didn't get their next genuinely good one until about 5 movies later.

You're gonna have a better batting average if you take more swings over a 5+ year time span.

[(Anonymous)]

What stats are you going off of about MCU? The first phase movies all got very positive reviews.

And DCU had all had bad reviews. The most 'middling' is Man of Steel which still has bad reviews. So DC has gotten 'bad to terrible' reviews.

And the worst part is these are the movies that are supposed to be setting up their universe. How is anyone supposed to have faith in this universe when WB has fucked up the first three?

DC is trying to do what Marvel has done without putting in any of the work. Instead of trying to set up their characters one at a time, they set up one and they tried to make the Avengers. And it didn't work. It was shit. And it was also shit when DC tried to make their own version of Guardians of the Galaxy.

And it sucks because they keep making the SAME mistakes with each movie. They can't seem to write a coherent story to save their life. And everyone keeps going, "Well, just wait for the extended cut!!!" So, WB is going to be treating their movies like video games? If you don't like the first version, just buy the DLC!

[(Anonymous)]

Critics don't mean shit. Marvel movies are mediocre. The only genuinely good ones are Iron Man, Winter Soldier, GOTG, and Ant-Man. the rest of their movies are quip infused messes with varying characterization from movie to movie. People act like they are works of art when they're generic as shit.

DC movies are shit too. But Marvel isn't this savior people make them out to be. Their smugness over their okay-ness is more of a turn off then anything. At least DCU fans are dumbass delusional with their capekino comments but I'll take that over smugness.

Also wtf do you mean number stats. Do you not know how averages work? More numbers = better chance at a higher mean.

[(Anonymous)]

"Critics don't mean shit."

How about money? Civil War (a Captain America movie) made 1,151,887,060.

Batman V Superman (aka a movie with the BIGGEST Superhero names that should have made ALL the money in the world) made 872,662,631.

An R-Rated Superhero comedy that didn't even have a Chinese box office made 782,603,445.

[(Anonymous)]

The TV shows are a completely different thing.

But in the movies the DCU ones are super grim and depressing (in the case of Suicide Squad they are also dark in lighting).

And even the darkest MCU movie (Civil War) had great moments of appropriate comedy. One of the biggest complaints about DCU films is that even when they try to joke it comes off as forced and out of place.

[(Anonymous)]

But the TV shows aren't a different thing - they're trying REALLY hard to make it all part of the same universe (which is probably poor Agents of Shield's ongoing problems, but that's a different argument).

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say that the netflix shows make the darker tone work in a way the DC movies really don't. Because they have more space to work with, they can let the story breathe more, and even if the moments of humor are a lot more infrequent per screentime than a marvel movie, the darkness isn't as constantly oppressive either.

I think the real problem with the DCU so far is that it's been helmed by Snyder, a guy who by his own admission doesn't actually believe in heroes. You can get something thoughtful and beautiful from that point of view, but not something uplifting and compelling in the way the good marvel stuff manages.

[(Anonymous)]

You're a bit too stringent for my tastes; I'd add CA:TFA, Thor, and The Avengers to that list. Of course, that means by my standards half of MCU films are good, while even by your more exacting standards almost a third of them are good.

I agree that the smugness isn't wholly warranted, but it's also not wrong to say that a significant number of Marvel films are getting something right that DC films just aren't. (At least not yet. I'm holding out hope for Wonder Woman, and Justice League might pleasantly surprise me.)

[(Anonymous)]

The first half of CA:TFA was AMAZING. And then idk what happened and it just... Shit the bed :( Thor was fun but I didn't think it was that good and Avengers was great for doing something original and tying something together due to context and timing. But as a whole and hindsight it's very weak and Whedon's writing and his whedonisms are annoying.

But yeah. I'm not denying they're doing something right. Their world building which is smart as opposed to DC throwing pasta at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's just the smugness that is insufferable to me.

Also praying for WW but I know WB is gonna fuck that up somehow. Why can't they make good live action like the animated movies... Although those have gone bad since the Damian movies =/ at least the comics are good.