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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-02 06:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #3530 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3530 ⌋

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[Peridot, Jasper,and Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe]


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[Mr Max the Cockatoo (https://www.youtube.com/user/angeleyedboidan)]


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[Criminal Minds, Spencer Reid, Diana Reid]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
SAME. Before I saw the show I saw some post that was like "Be a Barb, not a Nancy," so I went in fully expecting Barb to be awesome. And she wasn't. Nancy was awesome. Quite honestly I think it comes down to slut-shaming. Nancy drank a beer and had sex, Barb didn't, so for a certain number of people Nancy = worthless and Barb = amazing. Gross.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-02 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
There are many people who like both Barb and Nancy. In assuming that there's a choice between them, you're being as dumb as the people you're criticizing.

I like Barb, and I have no truck at all with slutshaming, thank you very fucking much.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
There's definitely a resistance to Nancy breaking out of the traditional plotline for her character type. It's disappointing.
I think "slut shaming" is taking it a bit far but people do seem to find her agency off putting.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-03 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I find agency offputting when it means doing stupid things, which, from what I've heard about the character, sounds like the problem. I also find the word "agency" offputting because fans always defend the (female) characters they like who do stupid things because MUH AGENCY

(Anonymous) 2016-09-03 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think she does anything especially stupid. She's pretty inconsiderate of Barb when they go to the party, because she had a crush on a boy and she'd been drinking. Considering the lengths she goes to find Barb afterwards I don't think her character is defined by doing "stupid things".
I guess if you haven't seen the show that doesn't mean much, but the word "agency" isn't necessary. She makes some rebellious decisions and does many incredibly brave things afterwards but there's an disproportionate focus on the "bad teen girl decisions" she makes.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-03 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nancy= Not a slut, just doing what she wants and there's nothing wrong with that
Steve= Jerk
Barb= Trying to protect her friend
How about we don't "be" anyone and just be the best self we possibly can.

That's how I see it. I don't speak for anyone else.
sabotabby: (teacher lady)

[personal profile] sabotabby 2016-09-03 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-09-03 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely. I honestly found Barb unlikable because there was a point where her concern for Nancy went past protectiveness and started to look more like she just didn't want her friend to change or try new things. I would have found that awkwardly relatable at a time, but it doesn't make her a great character. And whether she was "right about Steve" isn't the point because Nancy gets to make up her own mind who she gets close to or forgives.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-03 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a mature point of view, but can you really not understand how a 15 year old girl might not want her friend to change? Especially when that change involves going to a place where - from Barb's point of view - she's unable to follow? I'm not saying it's right but it's absolutely understandable for God's sake.
ninety6tears: jim w/ red bground (Default)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-09-03 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't say I didn't think it was realistic or understandable, but it's one of a very short list of traits people are apparently not just responding to positively but using to knock down Nancy, so, so?