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⌈ Secret Post #3538 ⌋

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How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

So I teach for a small liberal arts college, and as I was leaving class the other day, I saw a poster advertising the school's LGBT student alliance with a huge picture of......Steven Universe.

I'm a little dismayed at how uncritically SU has been absorbed into young people's vision of LGBT issues. I appreciate that fiction is a great way to represent/work through/understand real world issues, but the boy with the bedazzled belly is not really an appropriate representative of the LGBT movement today.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[sparrow_lately]

y i k e s

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

I would kind of push back a little bit on whether this really means that it's absorbed into young peoples' vision of LGBT issues, or whether it's more that, like, one or two kids are fans of it and made a dumb poster. I don't think we have enough evidence to say.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I'm viewing the poster in the context of tumblr culture at large, so I think that saying "one or two kids are fans of it" doesn't really make sense.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

But the same question comes up there: how representative can we consider Tumblr culture in relation to the culture at large?

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[sparrow_lately]

Dude, clearly there's correlation, OP saw the GSA sign/exists in the universe and can draw conclusions.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

There's some correlation, sure. But at the same time, it's still only one poster, you know? We're talking about the way that young people, in general, think about LGBT issues. That's a really wide topic. I'm not entirely comfortable assuming that Tumblr is representative enough, or that Tumblr plus a GSA poster is representative enough, to draw strong conclusions about youth culture as a whole.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

I think Tumblr pretty demonstrably influences the thinking of a large percentage of college students. Not 100% by any means, but a lot of them. And trends leak out from Tumblr into broader popular culture!

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

Sure! But that's already a less direct conclusion - and we're talking about it in a more diffuse way - than OP was. Which is really most of what I'm trying to say. There probably is some connection between how people think on Tumblr and the broader culture, but let's be careful about how definite our conclusions are.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

You're reading way too much into this. People put pop culture stuff they like on posters for group meetings. It doesn't mean they're uniting under the banner of Steven Universe or that he's the new face of the movement or whatever you're reaching for here.

Honestly, I'd love to have seen your reaction to the Doge posters that were posted everywhere when Doge was still a thing. "I appreciate that memes are a great way to relate to real world issues, but a Shiba Inu is not an appropriate role model for the Intramural Disc-Golf team."

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

i realize people use pop culture images on posters; my concern in this case is related to the fact that I've seen SU and LGBT issues connected to the point that in some corners of the internet it seems like there's a general consensus that SU is The Queer Show, that I've read student papers using SU as an example of a educational LGBT show, and that a LOT of thinkpieces have come out connecting SU and LGBT issues. Giving that much weight to what is ultimately a children's cartoon does not sit well with me.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

DA

How about telling us what's wrong with it, instead of telling us how it makes you feel?

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

it's a kids' show about human/gem fusions

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

So?

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

it's also a kids' show where girls flirt and kiss

and there's a dude who thought Steven was hot when he fused into a different physical form (the form was neither a girl or a boy but Steven was still Steven)

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

Giving that much weight to what is ultimately a children's cartoon does not sit well with me.

You're literally talking about yourself here and it seems like you don't even realize it.

Anyway, just wondering, do you have a problem with queer subtext in kids shows in general, or is this a special occasion? WHERE WERE YOU WHEN SPONGEBOB RULED THE CARTOON WORLD??

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[feotakahari]

If children's shows can say valuable things about pacifism or free will, then why not romantic relationships?

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[grausam]

lol, apt comparison

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see the issue.

The picture could have just as well been a picture of Sailor Moon or Tintin. Whether you agree with it or not, SU is an LGBT icon. He doesn't have to be LGBT himself to be considered one.

To give you a bit of context: Judy Garland and Donna Summer are still seen as some of the biggest LGBT icons today, and they were allegedly homophobic. They're not icons because of who they are, but because the LGBT community has adopted them for their own use.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[grausam]

isn't he?

I've seen Daria and Sailor Moon on college posters about feminism and LGBT issues.

seems like SU is doing a pretty good job as pop culture LGBT representative. as icon it also has the advantage of being more than subtextual canon.

HEY GAY KIDS! STOP BEING HAPPY ABOUT THE GAY CARTOON

[chardmonster]

DID YOU KNOW THE GAY CARTOON IS SIMPLISTIC

I AM DISMAYED

YOU SHOULD BE ADVERTISING YOUR GSA GROUP WITH SOMETHING MORE "WITH IT" LIKE YOU KNOW DEAD TRANSWOMEN OR AN ORLANDO MEMORIAL OR THIS PICTURE OF MIKE PENCE



STOP BEING SO CAREFREE, GAY KIDS YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO BE CONSTANTLY CHALLENGING SHIT BEING QUEER MEANS NEVER RELAXING UNLESS YOU HAVE PURGED ALL PROBLEMATIC MATERIAL FROM YOUR DVR AND THEN ASKED AN ACQUAINTANCE TO CALL YOU OUT ABOUT YOUR LATEST FACEBOOK POST

DEAR GAY KIDS I SAW YOU WERE WATCHING XENA WHEN I BORROWED YOUR NETFLIX ACCOUNT

[chardmonster]

HOW DARE YOU

YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING PARIS IS BURNING OR DO I SOUND GAY INSTEAD

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO WATCH BOTH PLEASE STOP WATCHING XENA IT IS FLAWED AND SIMPLISTIC AND I FOR ONE HATE THAT PEOPLE LIKE IT WE SHOULD WAIT TO ENJOY SILLY TV SHOWS UNTIL THE DAY IN THE FAR FUTURE WHEN ONE EXISTS THAT HAS NO PROBLEMS

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe they know that SU is popular with LGBT people and thought a picture of it would be a good way to attract lots of students? It's called advertising. It's not that deep.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm a little dismayed at how uncritically SU has been absorbed into young people's vision..."

Yep, you lost me there. You're reading way too much into it.

Also, I thought this post would be about the Government Services Administration for a sec.

Re: How not to advertise your GSA group

[caerbannog]

idk we had anti-bullying messages sent around work with the simpsons included in the imagery. Thought it was a bit off, didn't pay it much mind.