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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-22 07:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3550 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-22 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get this either. As long as a show/movie/book is consistent about the world it creates, it doesn't have to match up perfectly with ours even if the two are remarkably similar. Especially when it's fantasy and sci-fi set in 'our' world.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about race, then, a person would still be the same race in an alternate universe, though?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
OP

The author tries to "hide" the Eugenics Wars within our timeline of the 1990s rather than just full-on write what it was implied to be by TOS canon - a destructive war wrought across Europe, Asia and Africa by competing would-be genetic overlords.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
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So I have no idea why you're on about race????
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-23 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think they were talking about the Khan in the AU movies.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
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Oh yeah, there is just no excuse for casting Benedict Fuckface as Khan. (>_<)

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
I wish they'd stuck with their original plan to make him Gary Mitchell but apparently JJ Abrahms was concerned no one would have a clue who he was...which is stupid.

He also made a decision to have Uhura kiss Spock in the turbolift instead of doing the finger touching thing Vulcan's do...all because he didn't want to confuse people new to Star Trek :(

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I think OP was talking about the Eugenics Wars (which in TOS were supposed to have happened in the 1990s, but obviously didn't IRL and therefore would have to be either an alternate timeline or pushed to a later date), not the TOS vs. new movies timelines.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-23 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, I kind of agree. An alternate timeline is the easiest explanation and makes the most sense given they already exist in Star Trek. On the other hand, I really loved the three Khan books (these two and the one about his exile). They were really well written and interesting. So I'm kind of okay with their explanation as well.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
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I liked the first book but the second just felt so anticlimactic. :\
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-23 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I can see that. I still enjoyed it. I really liked the third one, though. It made Marla into a complicated character, I felt, and made me actually sympathetic towards Khan.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-26 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Days late so I'd be surprised if you see this, OP, but if it helps, Greg Cox also wrote "The Rings of Time" about the Shaun Christopher mission to Saturn in the 2020s, and he doesn't bother trying to fit it with modern tech or historical events at all, he just goes outright "yeah it's a 2001-Discovery-esque ship going to Saturn" while also bringing in touches of modern-day culture.

(Also, while this obviously shouldn't impact your opinion of the work since there's no way to know this from reading them, he's actually said before that he didn't do it because he thought he _had_ to, but rather because he _wanted_ to. He wanted to see if he could both fit it into modern history _and_ reference basically every single 20th century Trek thing all in one duology. It was for the sake of fun was all. :P)