[ SECRET POST #3580 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3580 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 55 secrets from Secret Submission Post #512.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/ddW7giP.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, can you actually sort by kudos/hit? How does that work?

(sorry, I know that's off-topic)

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't, for the very reasons OP lays out. Spammt OC-centric authors abuse it.

[(Anonymous)]

if you're referring to someone in the starsky and hutch fandom, I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. I'm 90% sure she comments on her own fics too

[(Anonymous)]

White Collar fandom has this problem too and also I've seen it at work in larger fandom pairings, like Tony/Loki. It's made searching for quality fic ridiculously hard.

How the fuck do you even fake kudos? 7 Proxies?

[(Anonymous)]

...86 words?

[(Anonymous)]

MTE

[(Anonymous)]

86 words, 21 kudos?! I really hope they're faking it or else those better be the best 86 words of this generation, because damn.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I've been in a fandom where 10 kudos or less generally meant the fic wasn't in English, and anything over two months old that was under 30 kudos was terrible. Any writer with a decent following could get to 21, easy.

However, that kudos to hit ratio IS pretty suspicious, unless the author is notorious enough that the only people who even open their stories are dedicated fans who'll leave kudos no matter what.

[feotakahari]

We had some of those on Literotica. Lots of stories averaging a 4-star rating out of 5, lots of favorites from accounts that never faved any other authors, and prose that made greentext stories look like Dickens. FWIW, I think casual readers barely noticed their existence.

[(Anonymous)]

Literotica's rating system is useless.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, if you put -"author name" in the "Search within results" field, then the author's fics won't show up in the results. this won't help the "making fandom look bad to newcomers" thing, but it will save you from wading through her fics.

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP, but thanks for this helpful piece of advice.

[ariakas]

I honestly have no idea what depths of despair your personal life has to be wallowing in for you to actually kudo your own work, let alone multiple times.

But I wouldn't worry about her making the fandom look bad to newcomers: they'll click on one of her stories once and then never again.

[(Anonymous)]

It is the same emptiness of the soul that makes other people spam tags, because they fervently believe that if they can only sucker someone into reading then they'll love it. Visibility, they have to have visibility, because forcing people to always see their shitty fics will always enhance the reader's experience. In their world, anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the act of kudosing my own fics would end up making me more depressed than if I never got any proper kudos at all. Also, what a waste of time.

[tabaqui]

I'm completely confused. How does 21 kudos (not a lot) and 65 hits = author is upping her own kudos count?

On a current fic of mine, the story has: Kudos: 195 Hits: 5389, and 130 of those kudos are left by 'guests'.

Does that imply to you that I 'kudo'ed myself 130 times? I'm just baffled.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE.

There are many lurkers as well as people who just don't care about getting an account because they only visit AO3 when someone links them to a specific fic, and seeing how many authors promote their fic on tumblr...

[ariakas]

Look at the numbers on those, though.

21/65 = roughly one kudo per three hits, which is insanely high.

195/5389 = roughly one kudo per forty hits, which is a perfectly normal number.

In my experience, a very good fic will have around a one kudo per ten hits ratio, at most. More than that and something fishy's going on (might not necessarily be someone kudo'ing themselves, might just be a clique or a small but beloved-by-its-fans rarepair who kudo literally everything written for it).

Only way to know for sure is to click on it for yourself, I suppose. That said, if it's trash, it's annoying.

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP, but I think they're talking about the ratio. 1/3 (32%) of the new people clicking on the story leaving kudos seems like a lot. With my own most popular fic, I'm at about 1/20 (5%) leaving kudos (most of them between 2-3% ratio of hits to kudos). Yours above is a little less than 1/25 or 4%. So that seems a bit more normal for AO3.

[(Anonymous)]

I wondered this too.

Most of the kudos I received on my fics were to be identifiable, logged-in users ... once upon a time. That was at least 3-4 years ago, though. Nowadays almost all the kudos I receive are anonymous. I'm guessing people are less and less inclined to log in before kudos-ing or leaving comments? (And no, I didn't self-kudos.)

[(Anonymous)]

For the record, I've found the one you've put in the secret and holy hell is it awful. I hope the rest of the fandom is better!

[annethecatdetective]

... What fandom?

[(Anonymous)]

The really sad thing is how hard this would be. Doesn't AO3 recognize your IP address?

So this writer would have to go into a bunch of places with wifi and kudos their fics.

Ha, that's shit sad.

[(Anonymous)]

I expect they fucked around with their IP somehow