[ SECRET POST #3582 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3582 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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03.
[Daredevil, Wilson Fisk/Vanessa Marianna]


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[Overwatch]


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05.
[Mob Psycho 100]


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[Malcolm in the Middle]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 39 secrets from Secret Submission Post #512.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

1. Making money doesn't make you a sell out. Imo that is a shitty thing to say about an artist who decides to make money doing what they do
2. If these young people aren't prioritizing their money correctly, thats on them. What is she supposed to do, sit down and work out a budget with all of them? She's just offering an optional service.

I get that it sucks when a fandom is on the decline (a lot of my fandoms are old and small), but one artist getting a patreon is not to blame.

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

To what extent do you think fandom would exist if the ethos underlining all activity was, "I should get paid for this?"

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

Its not this artists responsibility to make sure fandom exists. Stop putting the life and death of your fandom on this one random artist who realized people were willing to pay for her work.

Yes, plenty of people do it for free. That does not mean everyone will or should. Get over yourself.

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Again: if no one did anything for free in fandom, would fandom exist?

Do you think people should charge to make secrets for this site?

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

Probably not, but why are you conflating one person not doing something for free to no one ever doing something for free?

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, maybe because one of the most basic tests of whether an action is ethical is to ask "what would happen if everybody did that?"

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

We were talking about production, not consumption.

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

Oh shit guys its the fandom ethics police.

Fandom not existing would not be unethical. Perhaps you wouldn't like it, but it would not be unethical.

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

Other sites pay for photoplasty stuff like Cracked and they're much bigger, get more hits and views because the overall quality is better.

I mean fandom wouldn't exist if people couldn't make money on the original stuff that we're fans of. Think Harry Potter would have been such a big thing if it was just some obscure bit of original fiction on LJ? How would Star Trek get made without actors, scriptwriters, and a network to host it?

Re: I'm cheap I guess, but eh

[(Anonymous)]

You're ignoring the other side of the coin. When someone thinks, "I should get paid for this," they're also thinking, "I really don't want to do this any more unless I'm paid, because doing it for free is no longer worth it to me."

For people already in that position, if they didn't have a Patreon, they would stop making art entirely.

Fandom would exist, but a lot of artists who are making great stuff on Patreon would no longer be a part of it or contributing anything any more, paid or free.