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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-01 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3590 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-11-01 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got the appeal about Harry either, protagonists are typically duds. At the same time I'd go to war with trashing Ginny Weasley, even though I didn't care for Harry (or the pairing) much at all. Harry's status as a protagonist literally inflated Ginny's self-worth and entitlement of him and that's what really offended me about her stupid ass. It's was brazen and tactless, JKR couldn't even disguise her motives behind proving how much Ginny deserved him or how deserving she was of Harry.

It was horribly obnoxious and obnoxious writing.

Ginny is like a fiction gold-digger, only she's after fictional fame not irl fortune. /rant

It's funny OP but I recently had q personal debate about trying to define Harry's personality. He has negative qualities, like having screaming fits, but the negatives stand out because he's usually passive. I hoped I had better things to say about him but apparently that's the best I have atm.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-01 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
What a totally bizarre point of view

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
How is this even a response? Are you just upset and wanted to use the word "bizarre" for something?

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, you're writing the author's perceived external attitude towards the character onto the characters' actual in-fiction, textual personality. You said that she's a gold-digger for main character status. It's really fucking weird. That's not a thing.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
You know what pisses me off about this view of Ginny? Aside from being described as attractive, she's basically a female version of Fred and George. But apparently, such qualities in a female are unbelievable, and off putting.

She likes a dude who happens to be famous, anyone paired with him would be under the same scrutiny. And please show me the canon evidence of her indulging in gold-digger like behavior.

(Plus if this were true, why even bother with a career? She could have just sat her lazy ass at home eating chocolate frogs and spending Harry's gold.)

If people don't like her, fine. There are plenty of reasons not to. But, I am sick of: She's just a FANGirl Whore, after Harry's FAME and MONEYz.

Grow up.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
That's okay, they make adult sized diapers too.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Good. Here's a $20, go buy yourself some.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Shame your response is so petty. Instead of offering say a counter argument, or anything of substance.

Given that I have no problem with people who dislike Ginny, just that vitriolic line of thinking in regards to her that comes off as disgusting and misogynistic. I can only assume that you do think like that and probably do so for pairing related reasons.

(Which FYI: I'm a multi-shipper and can go from one ship to the next without dragging characters 'who get in the way'. I'm quiet fond of Harry/Luna, that would have been interesting canon wise.)
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's a $20. Go buy some diapers.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-03 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, nothing.I'm embarrassed for you. Please keep the $20, you need all the help you can get, moron that you are.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-03 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Considering you always come out of the woodwork to harass me and YOU are the one who's embarrassed for ME? *tsk tsk*

I really fear for your life. Keep that $20, cause you are gonna need it if you don't wanna keep eating out of a dumpster, trash that you are.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-04 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Always? This is my first conversation with you (if you can call it that.)

You've been rude to me from the get go, if you can't take it, don't dish it out. Reply=Harassment, okay then.

Lol, no you don't.

So by your logic, I am trash and I also eat trash? I'm a trash cannibal, cute.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-04 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah right, like I'm gonna believe that.

You're the one that decided to make a much longer response to a simple "no" that was in response to a rather childish "Grow up" from the original comment. I wasn't the one being a little shit about it. You were.

So excuse me when I say "I don't believe you" when you "say" it's your first conversation.

Now take yourself out for pick up. You're stinking up the room, trash can.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-11-02 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the problem with her is that her like-Fred-and-George qualities took so damn long to show up. The first two books made a point of how she couldn't even speak to Harry, and that is understandable, but she all but vanishes in the next two books before suddenly appearing again as Twins'-younger-sister.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes, exactly. I think I read somewhere that JKR always intended Harry/Ginny to be end game. If this is true, maybe she was trying to make it a surprise? IDK. But it did not do Ginny's character any favors.

I prefer characters/pairings to be more fleshed out. Her disappearing act left more to be desired.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Just going to drop a fic rec that was one of the reasons that I started to like Ginny (pairings aside)

http://www.siye.co.uk/siye/viewstory.php?sid=128362

Ginny Weasley and the Half-Blood Prince By ReisMacleod

It picks up at the end of "Order of the Phoenix", then goes into "Half-Blood Prince" all presented from Ginny's point-of-view. Also covers "Deathly Hallows."

Read or don't, just had to rec.

(Anonymous) 2016-11-02 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know the anon you're replying to likes Fred and George? Maybe they don't. They're only talking about Ginny because she's the love interest of Harry, who was the original subject of the conversation.

It's very strange how often Ginny fans assume everyone who dislikes her likes Fred and George just so they can call them misogynist hypocrites. I love it when those people come back in and say "Well, nobody asked, but since you mention it, I hate the twins too." :3

(Anonymous) 2016-11-03 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't. The way anon worded their comment reminded me of the Fred/George and Ginny comparison. Because I believe it's in a similar vein to the: She's just a FANGirl Whore, after Harry's FAME and MONEYz. But, as you've pointed out, it's not necessarily true all the time.

It's very strange how often Ginny fans assume everyone who dislikes her likes Fred and George just so they can call them misogynist hypocrites. I love it when those people come back in and say "Well, nobody asked, but since you mention it, I hate the twins too." :3

Just curious, what side of fandom do you hang out on? Serious. Because I've never seen this. Hating Ginny, Fred and George, yes (And again that's fair bro.) But never in this context.

Well, I appreciate you not outright flaming me. I stand by my belief that some of the people who hate Ginny do so for misogynist or pairing related reasons. I reach this conclusion mostly based on the language they use when describing why the hate her.