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⌈ Secret Post #3590 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

One thing that did rankle was how oddly unobservant canon Harry could be at times. That said he was smart enough in his own way, so I don't think it's fair to claim Hermione always "did all the hard work".

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if he's awful, but he's certainly one of the dullest characters in the series.

[(Anonymous)]

One of the dullest? Nah, he's the dullest, no contest.

[(Anonymous)]

Harry's always been the one to fascinate me the most. It makes sense to me that he would sit back and let things happen to him most of the time because he grew up having things happen to him, where being pro-active would only get him into trouble with the Dursleys.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually couldn't get through the first book because I found him so profoundly dull that I couldn't muster up any energy to care about what happened to him.

[(Anonymous)]

Too bad you couldn't muster up the energy to see him get sassy with his uncle, and others. Shit, I love sassy Harry. lol

But seriously, he gets pretty sassy and disrespectful as the books go on.

[(Anonymous)]

I think part of the problem is that Harry was smart and more proactive in the first few books but as the series got bigger he became more of a plot piece than a character. This was really obvious in book seven when it felt like Harry and Ron had a quarter of a brain between the two of them and Hermione did all the think-work.

(...I didn't like book seven, no.)

[morieris]

Book 6 was "Wow, I'm supposed to do all this?" and Book 7 was "Here I go, with no plan."


Though it is hard to think up a plan for such a situation.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT mostly I think it's a matter of pacing. Both book six and book seven had terrible pacing. Book six was largely 'teenage life at Hogwarts while we wait for Dumbledore to get to the point' and book seven was 'the never-ending camping trip where half the interesting stuff happens off-page'.

It's hard to keep a dynamic character going when your pacing is flat as a board. I sometimes wonder how book six and seven would've turned out if she hadn't felt the need to have each book end at the end of the Hogwarts school year.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Been saying this for years. Harry is an absolute trash protagonist. He's so annoying and lazy.

[(Anonymous)]

Can you give me an example of a time in canon when Harry 1) knew and understood with some knowledge on the subject what needed to be done about a problem, 2) was shown that he could not rely on older and more experienced people to handle the problem for him because he is a child, and 3) did not promptly if reluctantly get to work trying to fix the issue himself? I think it's also a factor that JKR was kind of married to the book-per-year format, so she liked to draw out inaction with "maaaybe the grown-up Aurors will handle it, then, maybe not" and "Harry and friends need to find this information that doesn't seem to exist in mainstream sources of research."

[morieris]

This made me want a story about a chosen one from the perspective of the adults and not said chosen one.

[sarillia]

He procrastinated on figuring out the egg secret to the Second Task of the Triwizard Tournament and at getting Slughorn's Horcrux memory.

I generally disagree with most people in this thread though. I love Harry.

[philstar22]

Book 6 is a good example where Harry knew he needed to view all the memories of Riddle and instead he was focused on teen drama.

[(Anonymous)]

I like AUs for HP mostly because canon got really depressing. I never minded Harry too much, but then again I was never really reading the books for him in the first place. I was always more interested in the adult cast and the hints of things that had gone on the previous generations. And then Luna showed up. I love Luna.

[(Anonymous)]

Luna showed up the same time the horrid new!Ginny showed up.

[(Anonymous)]

I never got the appeal about Harry either, protagonists are typically duds. At the same time I'd go to war with trashing Ginny Weasley, even though I didn't care for Harry (or the pairing) much at all. Harry's status as a protagonist literally inflated Ginny's self-worth and entitlement of him and that's what really offended me about her stupid ass. It's was brazen and tactless, JKR couldn't even disguise her motives behind proving how much Ginny deserved him or how deserving she was of Harry.

It was horribly obnoxious and obnoxious writing.

Ginny is like a fiction gold-digger, only she's after fictional fame not irl fortune. /rant

It's funny OP but I recently had q personal debate about trying to define Harry's personality. He has negative qualities, like having screaming fits, but the negatives stand out because he's usually passive. I hoped I had better things to say about him but apparently that's the best I have atm.

[(Anonymous)]

What a totally bizarre point of view

[(Anonymous)]

You know what pisses me off about this view of Ginny? Aside from being described as attractive, she's basically a female version of Fred and George. But apparently, such qualities in a female are unbelievable, and off putting.

She likes a dude who happens to be famous, anyone paired with him would be under the same scrutiny. And please show me the canon evidence of her indulging in gold-digger like behavior.

(Plus if this were true, why even bother with a career? She could have just sat her lazy ass at home eating chocolate frogs and spending Harry's gold.)

If people don't like her, fine. There are plenty of reasons not to. But, I am sick of: She's just a FANGirl Whore, after Harry's FAME and MONEYz.

Grow up.

[thedarksideofprocyon]

Harry ended up frustrating as a lead character. That explains in hindsight why I liked a lot of the side characters better - of the three leads, Hermione was the only really interesting one, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the three of them work more as an ensemble, playing to each others strengths. On their own, not so much.

The only time I got really frustrated with Harry was in the movies. Y'know when Dan Rad pretty much breathed out all his lines?

I don't think I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, he did seem really reluctant to do a bunch of stuff, but a lot it was horrible or boring, so I never really blamed him for it. Given all the bad things that happened when he did do things, it's possible he just didn't want to make everything worse.

Honestly, I think he would have had PTSD from... pretty much everything in his life

[soldatsasha]

Haha, Harry is one of my fav characters from the book but I definitely get why he's frustrating to some people. The thing is, though, that sort of inaction is actually REALLY COMMON in kids from the sort of abusive/dangerous situations Harry's in. I recognize basically his entire mindset both from personal experience and a lot of the 'troubled' kids I grew up with.

When you're punished simply for existing, you become very good at pretending to not exist, and this most often takes the form of never doing anything. It starts with obvious things, like being afraid to ask for permission to go on a fieldtrip (or visit Hogsmeade). But then it bleeds over into shit like perpetually procrastinating on schoolwork, or knowing you should look for a summer job or learn some sweet hexes. At a certain point kids like him get to the point where they have nearly no frame of reference for actually living, because they spend so much time being totally passive.

You know the kids in school who sat silently at the back of the class and never talked or did any work? That's Harry without Hogwarts.

[dancing_serpent]

This so much! I started reading HP when I was already in my twenties, and it was uncanny to me how much overlap in behaviour and mindset there was with my own experiences growing up.