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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-04 03:56 pm

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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-12-04 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why people are so invested in her being unattractive in the first place. She's described as pretty when Harry sees her at the Yule Ball, with her hair straightened granted, which has it's own awkwardness with that trope, but that wouldn't have changed her face. And I have a hard time seeing Cormac McLaggen as someone who would date a girl he didn't think was particularly attractive.

I mean, I do know why people are invested in it, wanting a female hero who doesn't need to be beautiful, but I just don't think Hermione is who they were waiting for even in the books.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The Yule Ball thing though is the typical "nerdy girl gets makeover, shocks friends by being secretly pretty" trope. Which implies that normally, Hermoine doesn't present herself as pretty (at least not until that point).
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-12-04 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that she doesn't normally present herself that way. I just don't know that I agree that the movies do present her that way. Compared to the effort someone like her would go through in real life, she definitely is. But for a woman in a movie? She seems about as un-made-up as they get to me unless the character is someone we're supposed to think is hideous.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2016-12-04 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I was a Hermione at school, high achiever with a know it all attitude as well as being awkward looking with hair that just did its own thing. I read the books late compared to most fans (the films were already in full swing) and I have to admit that at first I did have that "how DARE they take that away from my inner awkward nerdy kid!me" when I interpreted the films as really prettying up Hermione/Emma.

But I sat down and thought about it and if I'm honest school-aged me would've given *anything* to still have my book smarts but also be as nicely styled as Hermione from about film four onwards. So...I don't actually know what to think now. I guess I don't really have a problem with it ultimately because if I'm going to project on Hermione, it's another form of wish fulfilment anyway.

And I do get that it's a problem that Hollywood can't stand an unconventional looking woman so even the "weird" girls are still conventionally attractive underneath it all. I'm just saying that teenage me would've snapped your hand off if you'd offered me the chance to look as put together as Emma Watson. I don't feel bad admitting that.
Edited 2016-12-04 23:00 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-12-05 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Movie!Hermione is pretty much pure wish fulfillment all around, anyway.

I think people are mostly upset about taking away from the realism of the character. In real life people who spend insane amounts of hours studying don't look perfectly polished 24/7 with clothes that fit just right.