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⌈ Secret Post #3632 ⌋

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Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

How do you engage with someone (i.e, a fandom friend, a fellow site member) who has fundamentally different beliefs from you but who you also have things in common with? Are there lines you draw on who you're willing to interact with, do you drop people completely if they say something you think is fundamentally wrong, or is it better for both sides to avoid discussing politics completely for the sake of keeping a friendship?

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

is it better for both sides to avoid discussing politics completely

Yes. Long ago polite people did this as a habit.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Politics and friendship?

[sarillia]

Depends on the person. If they're obnoxious about our differences then I'm not really interested in talking to them, unless I really enjoy our conversations on other things, and then I might just try to stick to safe topics. But with people who can be reasonable, I'm genuinely interested in hearing other points of view and I'm fine talking about the things we disagree on.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't discuss politics or religion with anyone but extremely close friends and family. And then only if we have near identical beliefs. I'm not interested to argue with anyone about something that doesn't have any "right" conclusion beyond personal opinion. And I don't make friends with anyone who brings up either subject repeatedly because even if our beliefs are similar, our personalities are incompatible.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

There aren't any good simple answers to this and you have to draw your own line.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

I've recently joined a community for my fandom where I get the feeling I'm in a distinct minority politics-wise. One of the mods is incredibly pro-Trump, for example.

I was under the impression fandom was generally liberal, so I'm honestly a bit surprised. He'd have been run out of town on a rail on every other fandom space I've been in, including this one.

So far I've avoided politics completely -easy to do on a forum - but I'll be meeting some of the other users at a convention I'm planning to attend so I'm trying to sharpen my social skills to avoid fights.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

Google Sad Puppies/Rabid Puppies. There are plenty of conservatives in fandom!

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I knew about them, but I thought they were a relative minority. Maybe it's just the spaces I generally hang out in.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[sparrow_lately]

You gotta draw your own line. I can't really trust people whose sociopolitical beliefs/values harm, hate, or disrespect my loved ones. But that's me.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[diet_poison]

I do not think I'd be able to keep a sincere friendship with people who are openly bigoted, but other than that I'm alright with tolerating opposing views. I can be friends with someone who is, like, economically conservative, though if the topic comes up I'll certainly explain why I think that's wrong. Most people don't mean badly. I used to be conservative and then libertarian and those things change. I'm not a bad person because I once held those views.

I can also be friends with people of differing religious/philosophical views as long as they are respectful of mine.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[feotakahari]

The personal is political, at least when people's existence is made a political issue. If I like a Muslim poster, I won't go along with badmouthing them just to please some poster who doesn't like Muslims.

Re: Politics and friendship?

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on the politics. I have friends who truly believe in the general 'public assistance does more harm than good, we should leave it to grassroots level private organizations' 'a $15 minimum wage will hurt the economy' 'employers should have a right to decide what hours/benefits are best for them and if they want to offer 10c an hour and 12 hour workdays with no breaks or benefits well then things will either work out for them or it most likely won't. The government sticking it's nose in there won't help anyone.'

But I dropped friends immediately over "How do we know the bitches doxxed by Gamergate didn't have it coming?" "Maybe registering Muslims really is a good idea." "Gay people should stop demanding special rights like marriage." and etc.

Basically, as long as the political difference is more about the best ways to help people and improve the world and they have different ideas on how to go about it I respect that, but as soon as they actively want to knowingly bring harm to real people then I can't be friends with them.