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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-31 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3650 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmhmm. I saw like a two page long screed which included pissing all over The Rock because "his speaking was so ~cringey~"

Like, I get that South Asians who watch the movie would complain about technical accuracy, but it still seems excessively petty to make that kind of complaint as part of a rant about cultural appropriation.
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-12-31 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Central Pacific, surely, not South Asia.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Quite right. I do not know how I made that mistake.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
those fucking scum bastards

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Translation? I can't read this. :(
dahli: winnar @ lj (Casual Tears)

[personal profile] dahli 2016-12-31 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Transcript:

N!S: This is an incredible film.
Easily the best Disney has put out in decades.
Strong charafcters, zero annoying sidekicks, the greatest
soundtrack of the generation, a powerful and positive
message...

S!: I'm convinced the reason the fandom response is so mediocre is all the bullshit
"appropriation" whining. It nearly ruined me on seeing it before it even came out.
I know I'm not the only one. Sorry, Moana. You are so much better than
anyone deserves right now.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Tumblr: Why doesn't Disney stop making movies about these white bread mayo characters who look the same?

Disney: *releases movie with POC character with POC voice actors (appropriate ones too!) and with an award winning POC music writers. Also, takes places outside of Europe/America and is culturally sensitive*

Tumblr: How dare Disney appropriate the Polynesian culture! This is AWFUL!

Disney: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I think perhaps this might not be a fully balanced summation of the fan reaction to the film in question

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
There was also a rant about how it was racist for Moana to be a Disney heroine without a love interest because that's only progressive when it's done with white heroines and if it's done with WOC it means you're "desexualizing" them.

And well, they do have a point! After all what recent, popular Disney movie had a white female main character without a love interest? Gee, I can't think of a single one!

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raspberryrain: (roll eyes)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-12-31 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Objection to "appropriation" is usually put forth in such a way as to sound like there shouldn't be any cultural transfer. And that's ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Such ugly character designs, and a merchandising disaster too. They've tried pacific islander twice and got ugly and hard to merch twice, they won't be doing it again in a hurry.
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-12-31 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You think Lilo & Stitch was ugly and hard to merch? Really?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Lilo and Stitch had some of the best character designs in ages, what are you on

And Moana was beautiful so idk what your standards for "ugly" are

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-12-31 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg how dare they make the characters have wrinkles and look vaguely muscular and more like normal people than the bug eyed aliens in Frozen.

So ugly, amirite.



What I'm trying to say is: you have terrible taste.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Are you... are you channeling Trump, here?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-12-31 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom Secrets is the only place I post where I've seen anyone mention the existence of negative reactions to this movie, never mind seen any actual negative reactions.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So what you dressing your little boy up as for Halloween? Not a character from Moana.

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[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-12-31 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well uh, considering I've had people link me Jezebel articles loosely about you better not buy Moana costumes for your kids you white pieces of trash I'd say there's probably a bit of it out there than you've noticed...

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[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-01-01 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Same. They obviously exist and seems people mentioned them. Did not see the film nor do I know enough about pacific islands in general to comment. They seemed not to have made a dent. The only drama I remember was with Princess and Frog before it launched as they changed love interest's design.
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[personal profile] dahli 2016-12-31 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the best you can do sometimes is not listening to this kind of people and maybe read some more level-headed opinions on stuff, and then forming an opinion yourself. Do it for the sake of your own sanity.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-31 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Must have missed the appropriation posts, although do wish the reception had been more prevalent! No meta has crossed my dashboard at ALL. Just some very pretty and cute artworks.
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[personal profile] analise 2017-01-01 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen the meta. One person in particular in the moana tag on tumblr putting up posts about it for a while after the movie aired. Haven't seen any recently and don't remember the username finding them again is easier said than done.

Probably she same person that anon at the very top mentioned regarding a two page screed that included cringing at The Rock for his pronunciation when he did the haka.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I got linked through tvtropes to ontd.

I shouldn't have followed the link, but I did.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-01 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
Here's my thoughts on the movie and why I personally didn't like it:

http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/230540.html?thread=1281291660#cmt1281