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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-18 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3699 ]


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thewakokid: (Default)

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-18 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust me, sweetheart, I know what all girls need and it ain't marriage.

;)
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-02-18 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I assume you're being 100% facetious but even as a joke this kind of line annoys me so much.

Also, going back to the very beginning, not everyone even wants a relationship in the first place.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-18 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, 100% kidding. AIRT really wants to be mad at me, so I thought I'd throw her a bone. haha. Throw her a bone. Get it? It's sexual. and you are more than welcome to be annoyed by it. Me knowing it annoys you, I'll be honest, means nothing to me, but you're welcome to your feelings and to express them to me irregardless.

And yes, You're right, not everyone wants to be in a relationship. Like OP. and whatever you do want, whatever choice you have to make, you will hit a point where the disadvantages of that choice will weigh heavier on you, be it "I'm in a relationship and right now she's driving me up the fucking wall" or "I'm not in a relationship and right now I feel so lonely". I'm suggesting that OP be aware that there's no avoiding those dark spot and if you're alone you're at a greater risk than someone in a relationship.
Edited 2017-02-19 00:02 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
NARY

You have a way of talking that makes you seem like a bit of an asshole. And maybe you actually are, I have no idea. But I also think that you are, essentially, right about this. And while I understand why a couple of people in this thread responded defensively to your initial comment, Personally, I don't think "Let me mansplain to you why you will eventually need a man" was actually what you were saying.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
+1
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't think I'm an asshole, but then I wouldn't would I? I don't think people who are assholes - Correction, people who at a given moment are doing asshole things. No one is an asshole, they just act like assholes sometimes - think they're assholes. I don't know if I'm being an asshole here, but I don't think I am.

Anyway, yes, thank you for the fair assessment, I really wasn't shooting for that. I wasn't talking about marriage, I wasn't talking about women exclusively, and I wasn't talking about women needing men, or heterosexual or even sexual relationships at all. I don't see where those assumptions come from. I was thinking about romantic relationships, but what I said didn't even need to include that. I was talking about excluding reality for fantasy and how even fantasy is not all happiness and roses all the time.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
As ususal, people here like to deliberatly misunderstand everything...
I'm sorry, wako :(

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, Wako is the person who thinks Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" comments imply consent on the part of the woman. So I can kind of see why some people on this comm find it difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt. That said, I actually do agree that he is being fairly misinterpreted here, and that he does get unfairly misinterpreted a fair amount.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
I appreciate that you're giving me a fair shake on this, so thanks. Can I clarify the trump point?

I was talking specifically about the "And they let you" part of that little exchange and how that could be interpreted to imply consent. It also could be interpreted as "And they let you, but I don't give a fuck about that" but that's not the only way to read it, and there's a lot of hostility to people giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, which I think is unfair.

I mean I'd love to not get into it, and probably this distinction about what I was talking about won't change a thing about how anyone thinks of me, which is fair, it was an unpopular opinion thread, I'm prepared to be unpopular on this, I just thought I should be clear.

Thanks for looking past that in this case, tho, You're good people.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT -- I think you have to really stretch to turn "and they let you" into consent in the context of Trump's remarks. It's not "And they let you, but I don't give a fuck about that." It's "and there's nothing they can do about it, because I'm Donald Fucking Trump."

If an extremely rich and powerful man, who is also a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier than you, grabs you by the dick and then proceeds to fuck you sideways, the fact that you "let him" touch you the way he wanted to doesn't actually make it consensual on your part.

TW Discussions of rape.

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Re: TW Discussions of rape.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
No need to say sorry.

I said something an people has a problem with it it happens. And I do think that there is a large portion of misunderstanding going on here. Maybe deliberately, maybe people only used to looking for things to be outraged at so that's all they see, maybe people genuinely mistaking what I'm driving at, but, I mean, shit happens right? No need for anyone to feel sorry about it.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
You literalyl told OP that she is mistaken abut her own feelings and she would surely feel suicidal if she wasn't in a relationship. What's there to misunderstand?

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a child, I was told two lies: one was that if I ever leave my religion, I will feel lonely a suicidial because everyone who doesn't alowthe OneTrue God inside their heart will feel this way eventually. The other was prety mcuh the same thing, except about a romantic relationship and babies.

Good thing I didn't listen,because it's simply not true.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Those are both lies, but I think lies of omission and just general misleading.

Let me explain mansplain: It's possible that leaving that community and failing to find another community would have left you feeling lonely and suicidal, but what they omitted to tell you was that there are other communities just as loving and welcoming that you could find yourself a part of. Maybe they didn't know? Maybe they genuinely believe God has chosen their community, and all other people are a lesser shade of people and having seen their community, how could anyone be as happy in another?

That's Lie of omission No 1. That there was a way to fill that hole leaving the community would have left

Lie of omission No 2. The implication that that sense of loneliness is a perpetual state. Just Nope.

Lie of omission No 3. The implication that you would never feel that way within their community.

But yeah, good for you for finding your own way.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
Atheist community can be described as many things, but "loving" is not the word I'd use.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-02-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
haha ok so you're just a dick. alright
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly so, I certainly have it in me, but I'm not sure I see why that would be. Willing to be enlightened on this, but if this is a "I told you something annoyed me and you didn't fall in line with me on it" you may want to prepare for me to defend myself on that one.

On the other hand if it's a "AYRT tried to say you were being a bad person but they were reaching so you deliberately said something a bad person would say to give them fuel for their anger"... Yeah, fair cop.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
i mean what did you expect him to say, "i'm so sorry i annoyed you, my bad"? you may not liked the way he said the thing but the point he was making was pretty dang sound.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-02-19 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I actually really don't agree with that. But either way there was no value to be added with a flippant "lol all girls just need dick!" comment. It was shitty and in poor taste, and I thought the anon who responded to him had a better point than he did that didn't merit that kind of below-the-belt response.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Get over yourself. Jeez.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-02-20 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
no u

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
jesus christ radfem, nobody was buying what you were selling when you were thelesbianfuturist and nobody's buying it now
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what you think I'm selling, but I guarantee you it aint what you think it is.

Spoiler warning: It's child slaves.

You know, of all the people who've come and gone here, why is it I'm Radfem or the lesbian futurist? Why can't I be someone cool like Noodly?
Edited 2017-02-19 01:09 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-02-19 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Now I KNOW you have to be some kind of weird parody of redditchan gamer bros, because those are the only ones who think Noodly is cool.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-19 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
POES LAw BITCHES!

I could be a parody of a redditchan gamer bro. Or I could be a real redditchan gamer bros.

...

Hang on, are you calling me a ~~~FAKE GAMER BRO?~~~

HOW VERY DARE YOU.