[ SECRET POST #3714 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3714 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[this was labeled "1984 musical, David Bowie" for some reason]


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[From Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Time's Arrow", parts 1 and 2]


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[Michael Jackson, "Scream"]


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[Misha Collins]


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[Nisio Isin]


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[Yuri on Ice]


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[Caitlyn Jenner]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't think this is the correct analysis of the situation. It seems more likely that Caitlyn Jenner just has broadly center-right politics and underestimated the strength of political policies of transphobic or homophobic bigotry in the Republican Party. Which is a result of her political views, not male privilege.

I mean - and correct me if I'm misunderstanding you here - but according to this analysis, it would seem to follow that if a cis man had shown up to try and lead a Republican fight against bathroom dickery, that would have had more of an effect? And I am fairly certain that's not the case. No one could have done that and the mistake Jenner made was thinking that it was remotely possible for anyone to make Republicans listen on the issue. I don't think that Jenner would have been successful making the same case if she were a cis man.

[(Anonymous)]

No, a rich white cisman would have an expectation of being listened to and would personally believe they could have an effect. That is what Caitlyn's mindset was, that of being the rich white dude who was going to be listened to, because rich white dudes always expect to be listened to.

[insanenoodlyguy]

But it still wouldn't have worked. A rich white cisman wouldn't be able to convice all the right-leaning rich white cicmen to change their mind on this issue, they are already rich themselves and wouldn't feel an inclination to listen.

The expectation may have been born from living as long as Caitlyn did in this situation of privilege, but it's failure will not necessarily be tied to the transition for her.

[(Anonymous)]

The success or failure of what she wanted is irrelevant here. What is relevant is the expectation that might have been in her mind. As a man he expected people to listen and to pay attention. As a woman she is just finding out that she is mocked and shoved to the margins.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess my thinking is that the simplest explanation for why she thought people might listen to her is her political beliefs, which she had for a long time and pretty sincerely, because it's a way of thinking that actually makes sense to someone with those political beliefs. It just doesn't seem like something that needs to be explained by reference to male privilege or transness.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately, bigotry and the religious right have been the driving force behind GOP politics for decades. You'd have to be living under a rock not to notice that, particularly when it comes to a head every four years.

[(Anonymous)]

Under a rock is the default home address for rich white cismales.